AMD R5 2600 & 2600X Review | Stream Benchmarks, Gaming, Blender


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    Gamers NexusGamers Nexus

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    We review the AMD Ryzen 5 2600 and R5 2600X in this video, with most testing focused vs. the i5-8600K CPU from Intel.
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    Article: www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3288-amd-r5-2600-2600x-review-stream-benchmarks-gaming-blender
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    Our review of the AMD Ryzen 5 2600 CPU includes gaming benchmarks, streaming benchmarks (Twitch & YT), rendering tests with Blender, and power consumption for the R5 2600 and R5 2600X. We also talk about power consumption while streaming, for a unique metric, and reference previous memory overclocking tests with the AMD Ryzen 7 2700X. The R5 2600 and 2600X specs detail 6 cores and 12 threads, with base and boost clocks listed as 3.6GHz and 4.2GHz (2600X), or 3.4GHz and 3.9GHz boost for the 2600.
    We primarily focus on the R5 2600 and R5 2600X vs. i5-8600K Intel CPU, with additional tests for the R5 vs. R7 CPUs and R7 2700X vs. i7-8700K tests.
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Gamers Nexus
Gamers Nexus

Article has a ton more power bench charts: http://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3288-amd-r5-2600-2600x-review-stream-benchmarks-gaming-blender You should definitely watch our R7 2700 & 2700X review for more information: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A2yatfyLoo And our Gigabyte X470 motherboard analysis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNRQZkYB0ns Back-order a GN Anti-Static Modmat for your next build! http://store.gamersnexus.net/

Vor 7 Monate
fcmancos mancos
fcmancos mancos

Yo should check the ryzen memory calculator, works very good and i can put better timings and higher speeds than ever http://www.overclock.net/forum/13-amd-general/1640919-ryzen-dram-calculator-1-1-0-beta-2-overclocking-dram-am4.html

Vor 7 Monate
ph40
ph40

Have you tested streaming with Core Affinity - setting the game and stream to use different CPU cores?

Vor 7 Monate
XkStreamWorks
XkStreamWorks

Hi, take a look at the game Ark and use the non dedicated server option, it's very demanding on the CPU. you will play while hosting a server.I can play no problem on epic with my FX 8150 4.7oc but on non dedicated it's just to much it goes from 20% cpu to 60% and bottlenecks the rx 580, can't do more then 30fps with big drops. Cheers XkStreamWorks

Vor 7 Monate
Guillermo Coronado
Guillermo Coronado

Which ram do you guys think is good for a Ryzen 5 2600x on a X470 mobo?

Vor 9 Tage
V D
V D

This video is too good, Steve. How do I show my appreciation beyond what a single Like could convey?

Vor 14 Tage
Wisaster
Wisaster

the r5 2600 is unbeatable for it's price atm, selling for only 139€

Vor 16 Tage
Drunk Wizard
Drunk Wizard

Thumb up if you just watch for the hair

Vor 23 Tage
KynnX
KynnX

Guys i have a gtx 1060 and i want to buy the Ryzen 5 2600 for streaming isit enuf ?

Vor 25 Tage
Francis Estores
Francis Estores

What do you guys think about my first gaming pc build? Coming soon... http://pcpartpicker.com/user/FeSTii/saved/WfPYTW

Vor Monat
FairDinkum
FairDinkum

if you're using a GTX 1080 then I assume you plan to overclock your 2600, in that case get a good aftermarket CPU liquid cooler

Vor 3 Tage
inevitabledecline
inevitabledecline

Why is the r7 2700 never benchmarked? I love mine. 4Ghz on stock voltage @ 40c w/ a d15 under cb15 load. 1080p 60 streaming w/ no issues whatsoever w/ any game I play. 65w tdp 4tw.

Vor Monat
Achi Namaratne
Achi Namaratne

I OC my 2600 to 4.1ghz all cores temps are stable at 63c but I am using a cooler master t3 evo and it consumes 85w of power under load now

Vor Monat
Felix van Kynijt
Felix van Kynijt

Ryzen, Summyt, Orbyt, Fallen.

Vor Monat
m3m3 king
m3m3 king

1:11 said 2.6 Ghz instead of 3.6

Vor Monat
Turkel Samedli
Turkel Samedli

несешь какой то высер, иди на хуй!

Vor Monat
John Connor
John Connor

2600X completely shit on the 8600K during the streaming benchmarks, DAMN.

Vor Monat
Loren Husky
Loren Husky

The Ryzen CPU's are soldered to the heatspreader, so why do they kinda suck at overclocking compared to comparable Intel processors?

Vor Monat
JotaArt
JotaArt

Ryzen 5 2600 for 160$ USD or Ryzen 7 1700 for 180$ USD ? Gaming and Streaming at the same time is the maximun goal in my case, what do you guys think?

Vor Monat
Ex Nihilo Rex
Ex Nihilo Rex

So, for pure gaming R7 1700 or R5 2600? Which is better? I know Intel is better but i dont have money to afford an i7 8700k

Vor 2 Monate
Keshav Nathoo
Keshav Nathoo

You can be the winter soldier

Vor 2 Monate
kaz
kaz

2 weeks after this came out, found 2600x on amazon for 190. Instantly bought it, and been loving it ever since. Thanx again GN, for steering me right.

Vor 2 Monate
johnthechef
johnthechef

Pls talk slower, your speaking style sounds like u r rapping from your sheets. I like your infos but it’s hard to listen to.

Vor 2 Monate
Edwin Diaz
Edwin Diaz

So which R5 is better the base or X ?

Vor 2 Monate
OneRandomOsuPlayer
OneRandomOsuPlayer

Power consumption doesn't matter if you have a 850w psu :D

Vor 2 Monate
blargiefarg93
blargiefarg93

Steve, yer making it pretty hard not to finally get a 2600. Don't worry r3 1200, I still love you, just... I kinda want a decent stream and render...

Vor 2 Monate
Aquila Rossa
Aquila Rossa

Required watching? When is my essay due to be handed in and will this be in the exam?

Vor 2 Monate
elbitapmoC
elbitapmoC

This guy seems not excited about any of this. Sending us everywhere to learn instead of from this vid.

Vor 2 Monate
Nico
Nico

I edit videos on my ryzen 2600 runs fine.

Vor 2 Monate
Bastion Technology
Bastion Technology

8600K really struggles without HT.

Vor 2 Monate
OptimisticPessimist
OptimisticPessimist

I'm curious about the R5 2600 power consumption while overclocked and encoding HEVC.

Vor 3 Monate
maidul rasel
maidul rasel

Intel i5 got busted.... Nice to see... It was same with ryzen 1600bt no everybody talks about i5 8400 givibg more avg fps... Now intel will think i5 with 12 threads

Vor 3 Monate
Smoofedup
Smoofedup

RYZEN 5 2600 or 2600x *Bro's* ?

Vor 3 Monate
Christopher Merritt
Christopher Merritt

I'm new to PC gaming builds and this channel can be quite the task to digest but I'm really glad that I'm sticking with it because my inclination was to go for the 2600 non x and surprisingly the sentiment is the same here. The data seems solid. Good work and thank you for educating us newbies.

Vor 3 Monate
VANGUARDIAN
VANGUARDIAN

Is 2600 better than i5 7400 in video editing..?Pr pro and AE

Vor 3 Monate
Innocent_Bystander
Innocent_Bystander

Hate to necro bump, and I know this is a stupid question, but what does the .1 and 1% low mean on the graphs?

Vor 3 Monate
funbucket09
funbucket09

Does the R5 2600 have XFR2.0? Or is that only on the 2600X?

Vor 4 Monate
Mike Druinsky
Mike Druinsky

Wanted to know what are temperatures will be on 2600x with stock cooler with x470 board, many youtubers say temps exseed 90c under load sometimes( if this is so, its sad.) Have Corsair Graphite Series™ 780T case.

Vor 4 Monate
team fishbowl
team fishbowl

so in other words...2600X is AIGHT.

Vor 4 Monate
Rachel P
Rachel P

This is my build for streaming fortnite and rocket league. Would you upgrade to a 2700x? PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/gPKgzY Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/gPKgzY/by_merchant/ CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor (£184.99 @ Aria PC) Motherboard: Gigabyte - X470 AORUS ULTRA GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard (£125.99 @ Aria PC) Memory: Patriot - Viper 4 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£150.43 @ More Computers) Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£54.99 @ Amazon UK) Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£32.39 @ Aria PC) Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card (£419.99 @ Novatech) Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400 ATX Mid Tower Case (£53.15 @ Ebuyer) Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£74.99 @ Amazon UK) Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit (£79.96 @ Ebuyer) Monitor: AOC - G2460FQ 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor (£179.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk) Total: £1356.87 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-21 21:38 BST+0100

Vor 4 Monate
Tinko Gruev
Tinko Gruev

after few days i will get ryzen 2600x so happy

Vor 5 Monate
Jacob RAW!NER
Jacob RAW!NER

Should I get the 2600x or an 2600 with an aftermarket cooler

Vor 5 Monate
Clint-Excalibur71
Clint-Excalibur71

Jacob RAW!NER 2600x with a cooler

Vor 5 Monate
Gian Franco Pangan
Gian Franco Pangan

does pairing a 2600x to a b350m board make much of a difference against pairing it with an x470?

Vor 5 Monate
Fected
Fected

Does the 2600 (non x) still give good streaming FPS?

Vor 5 Monate
LJGM 47
LJGM 47

This processor has good apu?

Vor 5 Monate
Guy Fawkes
Guy Fawkes

Please call it FNAT

Vor 6 Monate
DrianChan
DrianChan

Is r5 2600x With gtx 1070 enough for streaming atleast 720p 60fps with stable fps gameplay? (Games like pubg,etc)

Vor 6 Monate
600xOverkill
600xOverkill

I like how when i was gaming on consoles the pc crowd was so "master race" about it and now that im part of the master race, all you fuckers are squabbling over what companies makes the better parts lol

Vor 6 Monate
Hugo Meira
Hugo Meira

Intel only makes sense if you use 144hz monitors, otherwise Ryzen is the best balanced option for general processing, and enough for all quality games.

Vor 6 Monate
Thor_chh
Thor_chh

Does the 2600 come with preapplied thermal paste?

Vor 6 Monate
EnergeticMooMoo
EnergeticMooMoo

So it is clear that the Ryzen chip is the best value when streaming. But does this hold true for recording? I do not know much about streaming or recording but am looking to upgrade my G4560 to a CPU I can record gameplay on (Overwatch, Fortnite, CS:GO, maybe some GTA), and I was thinking an i5 8400 w/ new mobo but now I am thinking of waiting for the B450 and getting a B450 and r5 2600.

Vor 6 Monate
Anuin
Anuin

Hi, which atx mobo would you recommend for ryzen 5 2600?

Vor 6 Monate
Jake0997
Jake0997

I have noticed a really nasty bug in my 2700x, that framerates will steadily decline until a power cycle, at stock settings of course, and after almost a month of tweeks and such, I have not found a settings change or OS tweek to fix the issue. I believe the bug to be tied to thermals, if the cpu ever hits 60c performance will drop, noticable in really high framerate games like Overwatch at 300fps on low, ive had it drop to 97 fps baseline using a gtx 980 from a baseline 300fps pinned board im using is asus crosshair 7 chip 2700x gtx 980 strix ddr4 13-13-13-21 3200 dual monitor setup is definately an issue

Vor 6 Monate
Ζ † N
Ζ † N

i wish people would bench with a more realistic gpu, such as a 1060 6gb, instead of the expensive 1080ti that most people don't have.

Vor 6 Monate
Clint-Excalibur71
Clint-Excalibur71

it's a CPU test, it doesnt matter what GPU you have, the difference is there

Vor 5 Monate
Hubert
Hubert

the benchmark is for the CPU to see if it bottlenecks so they use the best gpu possible. there are plenty of 1060 benchmarks if you want a purely GPU benchmark.

Vor 6 Monate
vBDKv
vBDKv

Intel always fail so hard at streaming. It's hilarious.

Vor 6 Monate
vBDKv
vBDKv

For that price I could get a Threadripper which would do even better. So yeah, 9900K is a waste of cash if you ask me.

Vor Monat
Loren Husky
Loren Husky

+vBDKv because although the 200 dollar processor might do it passably, the $400 (actually $580 right now) Intel Chip does it even better, considerably better. It's kinda like pitting a Civic Type-R vs. a Corvette Z06. Yeah, the Civic is pretty quick, but the Corvette is even faster. A lot of people are still willing to pay a premium for that. Whether or not that performance is worth the extra cost to you? Only you can decide that.

Vor Monat
vBDKv
vBDKv

Why pay 400 bucks for a processor when you can do the same on a 200 dollar processor?

Vor Monat
Loren Husky
Loren Husky

Wait for the I9-9900K.

Vor Monat
friedkangaroo
friedkangaroo

god the i5 8600k is poo

Vor 6 Monate
Chris Season
Chris Season

an issue with the 10-12Mbps tests are that Twitch only allows up to 6Mbps streaming... plus these days we have graphics hardware encoding which doesn't put so much of a load on the cpu and in some cases that's what works best. the ryzen and i7 would probably be neck and neck if you were streaming at 6Mbps and if you switched the load to a gpu encoder the result would be pretty much identical

Vor 6 Monate
Skelleton Man
Skelleton Man

@Gamers Nexus how about using intel quick sync for streaming, it will relieve burden from cpu and also gpu

Vor 6 Monate
FableLC
FableLC

i want to stream and game. what should i get? a R7 1700 or R5 2600 ? keep and mind i have a gtx 1060 and only need 1080p 60fps on my end. what will give me better stream quality ?

Vor 6 Monate
FableLC
FableLC

also if i could go with a cheaper cpu to achieve 720p 60fps faster stream, and 1080p 60fps my end let me know. i use vsync and personally dont care for more than 60 fps.

Vor 6 Monate
Sonic Dave
Sonic Dave

I have a question. What if the streaming was done in 720p for viewers? Would it still have had such a bad effect?

Vor 7 Monate
Sean Lutzke
Sean Lutzke

In the side by side, I was expecting the i5-8400 the 8600K really sucks.

Vor 7 Monate
CARLOS URIARTE
CARLOS URIARTE

THANKS "JESUS" FROM THE WALKING DEAD

Vor 7 Monate
TehJumpingJawa
TehJumpingJawa

If you were primarily a gamer, would you swap a 1700(comfortable 3.7GHz OC) for a 2600? (if it cost you nothing) (To be used alongside a 1070)

Vor 7 Monate
mxz239
mxz239

Did you run all those test on Intel 8600K AFTER Spectre patch with the consequent performance decrease?

Vor 7 Monate
Harsesis Hok'tar
Harsesis Hok'tar

So in conclusion.... the Ryzen chips are far better overall. Just say it. Whats the point of trying to stream games with the 8600k if the "higher framerates" are being turned into a slideshow on the viewer side? Ryzen CPUs are GREAT at pushing high framerates on ANY game that exists AND are far better in multicore than any Intel chips. Seriously, Steve, theres NO game that Ryzen can't handle AND they're better in multicore and production...... just say it already.

Vor 7 Monate
Loren Husky
Loren Husky

Intel still wins in single core performance, and that's important. IPC is why Intel has dominated for the past decade. Imagine what happens when the Intel processor gets the same amount of cores and threads that the Ryzen has. It will destroy it in both gaming and streaming unless AMD gets their single core game together.

Vor Monat
3en6ie
3en6ie

Is the 8700 or 8700k smooth at streaming like the 2600x and 2700x are?

Vor 7 Monate
Ghola Tleilaxu
Ghola Tleilaxu

Why the unplayable low framerate in Ashes of The Singularity with a GTX 1080Ti @1080p on the High preset?

Vor 7 Monate
Abhilash koushik
Abhilash koushik

I play lot of first person shooter games like pubg,squad,Arma 3,CS go . I'm planning to buy Ryzen 5 2600x ..is that a right decision?

Vor 7 Monate
Faycal Assaad
Faycal Assaad

No.

Vor 5 Monate
marshalcraft
marshalcraft

most of us don't care about streaming or streaming cores, but we do care about shader cores and the texter stuff. Sure streaming is cool but not all of us are running a high end youtube channel where we give a fuck how the stream looks.

Vor 7 Monate
marshalcraft
marshalcraft

Also what about physics? maybe gpus can give us some basic matrix opertions cores for better physics as well as more offloading to graphics card.

Vor 7 Monate
marshalcraft
marshalcraft

we want more polygons per frame and higher textures per frame, and then because icnreasing frame rate hits all of that, a stable 30 fps.

Vor 7 Monate
Perseus
Perseus

Gamers Nexus puts every other tech content creators to shame

Vor 7 Monate
Thái Bảo Hà Hữu
Thái Bảo Hà Hữu

i wanna play triple A game at 1080p 60hz and i want my cpu can last 3 4 years. Which one should i get? i5 8400(less power draw) or ryzen 2600(much more power but smooth gaming and futute proof)

Vor 7 Monate
3en6ie
3en6ie

Either is good, don't worry about power. Ryzen 2600 is efficient.

Vor 7 Monate
Bizzare Gamer
Bizzare Gamer

Hi what temps are people getting I’ve got the ASus prime x470 pro 3200mhz ram ryzen 2600x at stock with stock cooler 83c when playing gta v for 10 minutes tested using HWMONITOR & RYZEN MASTER

Vor 7 Monate
Joseph Macale
Joseph Macale

Your videos are so in-depth and thorough. thank you so much for all of your hard work, Steve

Vor 7 Monate
E3kTheCat
E3kTheCat

if none of these are overclockable past 4.2 ghz, what's the point of a better cooler?

Vor 7 Monate
Meladath
Meladath

To... keep the CPU cooler...? There are valid reasons for one other than overclocking. Less heat = less power used = longer chip life

Vor 7 Monate
Jonathan Bauer
Jonathan Bauer

Really liking amds xfr technology. It is especially cool how it can take cooling into account

Vor 7 Monate
itsmarklesterb
itsmarklesterb

LOL AMD CRUSHES INTEL HERE. 8600K DELIVERS 1FENAT (ONE FRAME EVERY NOW AND THEN) HAHAHA!!!

Vor 7 Monate
taariq faker
taariq faker

will the 2600 work on a b350 motherboard

Vor 7 Monate
TECH OVERDOSE
TECH OVERDOSE

Thumbs up if you are here for just the graph😊😊

Vor 7 Monate
gertjan van der meij
gertjan van der meij

I would love to see ... 2600 vs 2600X This is 2600(x) vs 8600(k) ! not what the title says !

Vor 7 Monate
DOMINION PIE
DOMINION PIE

I went from an 8350 to a 1700. oc'd @ 4.1 stable. Phenomenal processor.

Vor 7 Monate
Pienimusta
Pienimusta

So if you only game, get i5.

Vor 7 Monate
Clint-Excalibur71
Clint-Excalibur71

Sam Cooper intel has better Bus width for gaming. Ryzen is the best of both worlds, only a few % drop in gaming performance

Vor 5 Monate
Meladath
Meladath

Nope, I'm very happy to finally have some competition. And laughing at people who think they are informed is always fun. It's been a boring last decade in the CPU space. AMD hasnt had any leg to stand on since Phenom II, and even they were only a "cheap alternative" to intel at the time. If you think "amd has worse performance in games, thats clear" I would recommend you look waste your money on intel products :) After all, thats capitalism for you. You waste more money on an inferior product, that is your choice!

Vor 7 Monate
Pienimusta
Pienimusta

Did I hurt your feelings? Buhuu, go cry elsewhere. Amd has worse performance in games, thats clear.

Vor 7 Monate
Meladath
Meladath

No? if you "only game" Buy a 2600, and stop being a stupid little bitch that has to spend more money for nothing. If you "only game" You dont care about computing, or tech in general. Meaning you dont care that intel is ~5% faster single core. Since you WONT EVEN NOTICE THE DIFFERENCE. If you "only game" why would you only buy a 4 core 4 thread CPU, when you can buy a 6 core 12 thread CPU? It makes no difference to you. Since you "only game" you are obviously very technically inept and again, don't care about tech in general. So ANYONE who is like that, will simply buy the cheapest thing they can that works for what they need. AMD is cheaper, so only a moron who "only games" would buy intel.

Vor 7 Monate
RawLu
RawLu

\m/ Ryzen \m/

Vor 7 Monate
xeb edy
xeb edy

Is it true that if you use a different cooler other than what AMD supplies you will VOID YOUR WARRANTY?!?!?!?!?!?

Vor 7 Monate
André Flindt Tyrrell
André Flindt Tyrrell

xeb edy amd have changed the text in their warranty, you will still have the warranty if you use another cooler that meets the cpu's tdp requirements.

Vor 7 Monate
chrcoluk
chrcoluk

I am watching this video, I am impressed with the effort gone into it, but I am trying to judge this based on if any bias towards the hardware been reviewed. What I mean is this, I dont think I have ever come across a single review before which has benched streaming performance whilst gaming, so i then ask myself the question why did you decide to do this now, and I also ask myself would this test be put up in e.g. a review of the intel i5. I also ask myself why have you benched software encoding instead of hardware encoding. The answer doesnt bode well. The only logical answer is to shine the 2600X in the best possible light. So we know gaming in itself barely uses logical cores, they can help, but not usually by much, not usually enough to merit e.g. buying an 8700k over an 8600k. We know the prime differences between the i5 and 2600x is that the i5 has better per core performance, especially when ran to its max potential (which you have not done here, I see no 5ghz graph), and that the 2600x has logical threads, so basically the 2600x for threads is like a 8700k. So what would a reviewer do to put the product been reviewed (in this case the 2600x) in the best possible light? Run the intel chip at stock in bios. Run the AMD chip at stock ratios (so can claim its stock) but enable its enhanced features that allow it to breach TDP limits. Run the AMD with fastest ram you can get working because ryzen 2 seems to scale well with faster ram. Find a workload that will be optimised for a chip with extra threads that are logical that can also be used to try and identify with games, gaming + streaming perfect, however to get the maximum benefit the encoding must be software encoded. Run game uncapped FPS alongside 60fps stream (given the 8600k is imbalanced in resources given to game vs stream, making the game run faster basically harms its streaming performance). The answer is clearly to find the maximum hurt for the 8600k and the best joy for the 2600x to put the 2600x in the best light possible, given all these factors I have absolutely no doubt this was the intention of this video. The only next answer I dont know :) is why do you want to do this, is it to score points with AMD, basically become a good reviewer for them, or you dont care about that but just to publish something with a big WOW factor so to gain viewers. Before anyone shounts "intel fanboy alert" :) I will say it would work the other way on intel, things would be done to put the intel in best light possible, we would see manual OC data in graphs and so forth. It is pattern I see been common across many reviewers, a tendancy to put the product they reviewing in the best light they can. I expect if was hardware encoding the results would be much more levelled of, likewise if the game was capped at 60fps, meaning the 8600k not using up as much resources on it, the 8600k in turn would have better streaming performance. But this would make the video more "boring" :) What I find the most interesting here is that basically the 8600k seems to in this test have allocated more resources to the game as a % of its total resources than the 1600X suits balanced differently, this is odd, the windows cpu scheduler may have packed a heavy amount of logical cpus for the game, and heavy amount of real cores for the stream encoder, I dont know, but seems the most plausible explanation. So it is interesting even with the test clearly designed to make the 2600X seem like a god chip. :)

Vor 7 Monate
Joe Smith
Joe Smith

Did you finish watching the video? I don't ask that to be rude but I've noticed a lot of people comment once they reach a conclusion rather than awaiting the conclusion. I run an 8700k so I'm not an AMD fanboy by any means. Honestly I don't care what the brand is if it does the job at a price point I can accept. The latter half of the video clearly shows the 8600k ahead of the Ryzen CPU's and in the end he even says for a pure gaming machine Intel is still king. Paraphrasing a bit, my words not an exact quote of his. It really just shows the i5 series is a bit of a shifty lay-about when it comes to multitasking vs Ryzen or i7. Not exactly a shocking revelation. I don't know about the 60fps thing since high refresh monitors with higher pixel densities are becoming ever more popular. I honestly don't know why anyone would put over a thousand dollars into a pc to run at 60hz 1080p. I guess you could make an argument in favor of 4k monitor at 60hz/fps but that is still going to compromise the i5's ability to stream and game at the same time. I guess they could have shown 8700k performance in the same test too although that might be a bit unfair since it is a $380ish dollar CPU vs $220-240ish CPU's. I think the streaming tests are relevant given the increasing popularity in streaming while minimizing investment to do so. Personally I have no interest in streaming but if I did I'd probably go Intel for the performance with a 2nd box for encoding or some other hardware solution as opposed to relying on my CPU to game and encode. When it comes to rendering models or encoding video and the like I honestly can't imagine a professional getting a 2600 or an i5. Also there are already tons of straight gaming to gaming performance comparisons and Intel pretty much owns the top of the charts and that includes the 8600k. I guess my final counter argument would be why should tech reviewers continue to only use tests that clearly favor Intel instead of using tests that leverage the strengths of AMD CPU's too?

Vor 21 Tag
Gustavo S. Toledo
Gustavo S. Toledo

I agree with you. Most comparison videos appear to be targeted to highlight very negatively one side. Each side has its positives and negatives, but watching the videos in general seems like neither can be called a product. And the answer is simple, this attracts people to watch the videos. Cya!

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Fernie Vidal
Fernie Vidal

Is the 2600/X a worth upgrade over the i5 6600k?

Vor 7 Monate
Faycal Assaad
Faycal Assaad

Yes.

Vor 5 Monate
Pedro García Huerta
Pedro García Huerta

Nobody is talking about how the r5 1400 is around 110€ now and is awesome bang for the buck????

Vor 7 Monate
xIAMDAVEx
xIAMDAVEx

I just bought the 1600x. but I have not opened it. the 2600 (non x) is on special for the same price I got the 1600x for. is it worth the upgrade or is it basically the same?

Vor 7 Monate
Clint-Excalibur71
Clint-Excalibur71

it's a minor upgrade, dont bother wasting your money

Vor 5 Monate
Sylvain Paquette
Sylvain Paquette

Based on that I will keep my 1800x that works well at 4.1 ghz for now but a 16 cores threadripper is tempting. How long before the new gen of threadripper is due ?

Vor 7 Monate
His Supreme Clarkson-ness
His Supreme Clarkson-ness

Sylvain Paquette q3 2018

Vor 7 Monate
Emi Martinez
Emi Martinez

2700 review?

Vor 7 Monate
JETFOURLITRE
JETFOURLITRE

1 FENAT! Gold!

Vor 7 Monate
sky walker
sky walker

Wow look at that shitty i5 8600k , choppy as hell, are Intel blind fanboys seeing this or they are blind sided by the meaningless oc to 5 GHz.

Vor 7 Monate
Alexandre Oliveira
Alexandre Oliveira

?? Do you stream? I can tell you that for every 100 people only 1 or 2 at most stream, I'll even bet money on it. The i5 was ahead in every game they tested and the i5 has better frame times aswell, these are facts. If you want to stream then the 2600x is better for you, thats also a fact. But its also a fact that anyone serious about streaming will tell you that a 2nd pc is better than even the best of i7 or a 2700x as the main PC only has to deal with gaming and the secondary pc with streaming

Vor 7 Monate
lordsqueak
lordsqueak

Honestly ! , can't we just agree that scheduling for 8600K is broken, and exclude it until they fix it. There is no reasonable way, why the CPU alone would cause that stuttering. We know it should have the performance needed to get something that actually looks like video rather than a slideshow. ;) Personally on my old 2500K (just 4 cores), I have to fiddle with Affinity, to ensure the encoding doesn't run on the same cores as the game does. And that does the trick. (a tip if you are having trouble with stuttering) (( to change affinity, open taskmanager (on win10, set to display advanced options) then right click the program and select [set affinity] )) The scheduling is usually really good at assigning which cores a program should run on, but when it comes to assigning cores for 2 different programs, it is absolutely Potato. (as is evident here)

Vor 7 Monate
Meladath
Meladath

No the problem is not with scheduling... 8600k is much older than ryzen+... so if scheduling was the problem... surely it would be worse on ryzen+. Ryzen is actually known to have a really bad scheduler on windows 10, not sure if ryzen+ has anything better. Don't forget he is streaming at insanely high bitrate (10/12 mbps). Twitch doesnt even support over 6500. This is more of a "stream torture test" rather than a "stream test".

Vor 7 Monate
Arthur 94
Arthur 94

I'm going to build my first PC with a rx 580 8gb and r5 2600x but I'm having a problem finding a b350m motherboard that already comes with an updated bios and getting an x470 is just too expensive. I know the socket is the same, but I don't have an old gen Ryzen to update the Bios, anyone know some boards that already come with the bios updated?

Vor 7 Monate
CA GC
CA GC

the xfr2 its x470 exclusive or can be used on a x370/b350 board?

Vor 7 Monate
Flyinghotpocket
Flyinghotpocket

Stop recommending overclocking. I got a 1700x and unfortunately this basterd doesnt wanna go above 3.6 ghz. Overclocking isnt guaranteed. The 2600X looks like the clear winner, its basically at its max ready to roll from the box. As it should be.

Vor 7 Monate
Seth NoWai
Seth NoWai

I am planning to upgrade my i5 6600 to R5 2600, but what I am curious about it is memory speed scaling, will you guys test that too? Because I have 2400Mhz kit and I would like to postpone that upgrade, maybe help it out a bit with overclock there, but I am curious how much I am missing out on, if I do not upgrade. There is no question about scaling being there more than on Intel side, just how much also if it is worth going above 3200Mhz.

Vor 7 Monate
Muhammad Hadiq Duiputra
Muhammad Hadiq Duiputra

I am currently planned to upgrade my CPU from FX-6300, do the 2 series worth the extra cost or should I save the money and buy the 1 series instead?

Vor 7 Monate
Paulo Sergio
Paulo Sergio

Are we at the point where i should consider upgrading from my i7-4790 for significant gains in gaming performance? I've been pushing the upgrade away because of rising ram prices.

Vor 7 Monate
Meladath
Meladath

Nope. I have a 4790k @ 4.7, and according to the small info I can find on devil's canyon compared to current offerings (because intel released 10 generations of the same fucking CPU every single year just to make more money from their fanboys). Overclocked, 4790k is about the same as a stock ryzen+. Core for core. If you only have the 4790, not the K, ryzen+ will be a bit better in single threaded applications, but not astronomically so. Ofc, the multi-core performance absolutely blows intel out the water.

Vor 7 Monate
Blazing Clash
Blazing Clash

Amd is red Intel is blue Ryzen is king And intel just got a flu...... Not a fan boy

Vor 7 Monate
Nathan
Nathan

What ram speed were you using for the AMD chips? Thanks!!

Vor 7 Monate
EMRE Unlu
EMRE Unlu

So what should I get if I want to build a Ryzen5 system from scratch? 1600x or 2600? Is it worth the ~40 euro price difference to get the 2600?

Vor 7 Monate
SiriusXification
SiriusXification

Considering the somewhat large price gap(150 eur vs 200 eur) between the ryzen 1600 and 2600(X) in some regions and the negligible performance gains. Some reviewers have mentioned other gains in the form of lower latency, mentioned that this actually significantly increases I/O speeds a lot. So much that it's noticable in desktop usage. Have you encoutered anything of the sort?

Vor 7 Monate
Godlyhank
Godlyhank

Still running a FX 8300, still provides the FPS i deem acceptable for what i need, and found with 2016-2018 titles its actually holding its own really well, if 60 fps is your goal. With drops to 45 fps roughly depending on title. But those drops tend to be momentary

Vor 7 Monate
ubbgn
ubbgn

I5s already outdated, oh yeah intel does give u value thats for sure!

Vor 7 Monate

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