PlayStation Classic Controller Tear-Down vs. PS1 Original


Gamers Nexus
Gamers Nexus

Find our tear-down of the PS1 Classic here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYW-4AOFkDE Links to everything in the description above, or grab a GN shirt or modmat here: http://store.gamersnexus.net/

Vor 5 Tage
FirstPlayer - YouTube
FirstPlayer - YouTube

12:00 Yes, that's the Standard of PS Controllers nowadays since Sixasis-DS3 if I'm not wrong.

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Ricochetrabitt
Ricochetrabitt

I always use those hospital cancer wipes to clean off those things.

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Joey Hartman
Joey Hartman

Compare it to a ps4 controller... I feel like not much has changed and that's why they are so similar.

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Chuckles Nuts
Chuckles Nuts

that smoke gray controller was an add-on model. the original PlayStation 1 and PS ONE only game with Light Gray and White with the actual systems. also the ps1, ps2, and ps3 controllers are so similar. that 90% of the mold and parts are the same.

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Jan Girke
Jan Girke

11:36 The black bumper is conductive and shorts the black pads. I guess they are printing those with masks because printing them with inkjets would be too slow.

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eraser2727
eraser2727

"Resources they had at the time" Steve refers to 1994 as if they were cavemen back then. :D

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Darkburrow
Darkburrow

Germaphobe much? "Disgusting this", "Disgusting that"...

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Stabzcell97812
Stabzcell97812

That's actually really impressive. Which makes it all the more upsetting they didn't make a fecking dual shock one!! 😂 Only just found your channel btw. Seems like great content. Just subscribed.

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Derek2k
Derek2k

Why do I wanna punch this guy for no reason?

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sniperisdemoman
sniperisdemoman

Wonder if I can use my steering wheel controller for this?

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jim hough
jim hough

Duck it throw it away!

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jim hough
jim hough

That microcontroller is doing some of the work the older main board (bored) did?

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jim hough
jim hough

Okay there are some unknowns biohazard in the old one. I wanted to know what the chip is in the new one before he trashed it!

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jim hough
jim hough

I just can't give u a like until I do that(u) do that.

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jim hough
jim hough

Use lysol. Tell us what is laser etched into that chip, please!

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insanic1
insanic1

Him being such a sissy over the dust is annoying

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ciprianwiner
ciprianwiner

I like the construction of the new one but I really hate those printed ribbon pcb's because they rot. I have plenty of PS2 controllers with bad printed ribbon pcb's, some of which I fixed with conductive carbon paint. Dualshock PSone named controllers also use the newer design with the printed ribbon pcb's.

Vor 16 Stunden
Burning Typhoon
Burning Typhoon

The original controller changed a lot between the Dual Shock 2 and 3 revisions. The new classic controller adopts a lot of the changes from the Dual Shock 2. I've had to take apart plenty of PS controllers, since fighting games really tears them up. If I remember correctly, that cross bar on the original controller was used until the later Dual Shock 3 controllers. I remember the first time opening up a replacement controller, and not seeing it. Great, considering they would usually break, leaving the d-pad to fall deeper into the controller than necessary. Seems like the PS Classic controller is basically the newest Dual Shock 3, except with the vibration and sticks removed.

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Clay3613
Clay3613

Wish you didn't take apart the rarer controller and instead used a grey one...

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Vytenis Gadliauskas
Vytenis Gadliauskas

5:11 - 7 wire cable! :-)

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Fake Account
Fake Account

I'm new to the channel but...... Is it just me or does this guy have absolutely no idea what he is talking about? He should have done some research on the original PSX controller before filming this video. I was also unimpressed with his PSX Classic console tear down video as well. What's up with his fear of dirt? Has he never taken apart and cleaned a controller before? It's like if somebody was to work on their car but afraid to get a little oil on them. Unreal.

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JustOneOfTheSheep
JustOneOfTheSheep

ofcourse the shell will be exactly the same as the old one . as sony are the ones who made the old one :/ they would ust use the same shell design as the old one and just modiy the inside to work with the new components...

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enoc pac
enoc pac

Over the lifespan of my PSX I had eventually rebuilt my own controller from reconstituted parts of at least 4 other broken ones. I recall there were differences in PCB size and mounting between dual shocks of the same era.

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Lee Hutton
Lee Hutton

As much as I enjoyed this video the dudes infatuation with a bit of dust as being ‘gross’ made me want to scream stfu!! OCD much?

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raan
raan

ngl your mat looks just as gross as the controller

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Jeremy Archie
Jeremy Archie

If that new controller can't pas the Hado-ken, Sho-Ryu-Ken, and Yoga Flame tests...it ain't shit.

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Kim Jonny
Kim Jonny

So, if the PS Classic is basically just running an emu, would it be possible to use an X360 usb controller instead ?

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Ian Hamilton
Ian Hamilton

The new controller isn't really that much of a leap in technology. The two major differences are the usb cable and the use of membrane switches. The USB standard has a (relatively) significant amount of overhead so I bet that chip on the new controller is doing a lot more than the one on the old controller. I'd also bet the old controller has lower latency because of this. The switches, however, are the same thing on a different substrate. The PCB is only smaller because it doesn't have all the contacts for the switches on it.

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EraYaN
EraYaN

Why do the shape buttons have 4 contacts? There seem to be interconnections with multiple buttons... On both versions.

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craig thomas
craig thomas

having ribbon circuitry in the new classic pad is nothing new, sony have done that for years, it's obviously based on a later revision

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RallyDon82
RallyDon82

eugh i hate that cheap thin film like membrane on a hulk of plastic, gimme a proper pcb anyday, the thin plastic membrane is how the ps4 controller is constructed too.

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iRdMoose
iRdMoose

I'd be curious to see how that compares to the design of the PS3/PS4 controllers. I'd wager the PS Classic controller is similar to those.

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iKarith
iKarith

Not surprised by the differences, save the use of a USB connector on the PCB. It's really hard to justify a thick glass/epoxy PCB as a rigid substrate for a modern controller, and most knockoff controllers cheap out and use thinner boards just because the Chinese manufacturers just aren't ready to produce the thick boards, which increases costs. If you're going to have to reinforce the entire PCB with plastic anyway just to have the buttons feel responsive, and at that point it doesn't matter what substrate you use for the passive traces. Conductive pads on rubber domes can make contact with contacts laminated onto mylar as easily as glass-epoxy, and the mylar is cheaper since you already need the extra plastic. If Sony put as much care into the rest of this product as they did the controllers, the PS Classic would not be a dumpster fire.

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Rikorage
Rikorage

It makes sense why they would use that brace for the directional pad on the original. They didn't want fat hands or a temper tantrum to push down and damage the PCB below it. There's no fear of that in the new design, so they removed it. Sony makes a damn good product, and it shows (even if it is a cash-grab of sorts).

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Hinuk Mattila
Hinuk Mattila

Would be interesting to see comparison between dualschock 1, 2, 3 and 4 controllers. Even though functionality has changed between those controllers, for example pressure sensitive face buttons and d-pad on dualshock 2 and 3. Dualshock 3 and 4 being wireless with a battery. But expecially first 3 controllers have very similar feel to them when used, only the trigger buttons are different on ds3. So one can wonder how much they changed between the controllers in terms of the buttons, seeing how the ps1 controller has very similar buttons as the new ps1 classic. So have they kept the same design between the four controllers or have they just went back to the original design because they are making a retro console.

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Charles FraFra
Charles FraFra

So its basically the same but they replaced the traditional PCB with the flex/plastic circuit and added the USB driver .

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unnamed715
unnamed715

So wait, they're not even dual shock controllers?? I mean I understand it's "classic" and all but come on!

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mewserino
mewserino

Wow, didn't expect a replaceable micro-USB cable inside the new controller!

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mewserino
mewserino

Also really neat they used a flexible PCB in the new one, seems like an exact work-alike as the old rigid PCB version

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SesshyS
SesshyS

You forgot to wear your hazmat suit too huh? Could've wore gloves! As someone who repairs people PCs and consoles freelance I wear disposable gloves (and thin rubber handed ones for sensitive components) that's seen all kinds of crap in them! From spiders/bugs,pet hair,mice nests,and cig tar and who knows what else..Just today i took apart a PS3 slim that covered in dust clumps,cat hair,and crusted dirt/cig tar on fan,heatsink,vents,motherboard chassis and spilled food on bluray drive slot (not to mention 4 discs jammed in it) and HDD bay! Took it all apart blew it out with my DATA-VAC Pro,clean casing with soap/water,sprayed lysol disinfectant over it,and cleaned rest with 99% iso alcohol with q-tips,cotton balls,microfiber,soft plastic bristle brush,worked over laser assembly and all reg maintenance stuff and completely restored it perfect working order & looking brand new! Made an easy $50 for 1 days worth of work and didn't complain of it being gross over and over...

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Rainbow Dashie
Rainbow Dashie

Can you buy JUST the controllers? xD

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trunks10k
trunks10k

These new classic controller PCBs are probably only good as a custom pcb for making your own arcade fight stick. Also, it makes sense that all the molds are the same its very cost efficent for Sony to have molds of tehse ssitting around at the factory and just to reprint the plastics.

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Thomas Ellison
Thomas Ellison

Poorfags can't afford $100's.

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Boosted DC2
Boosted DC2

U really love saying PCB

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Geoff Seeley
Geoff Seeley

Lol, @2:52 "20 years of human skin". It puts the controller in the basket Steve...

Vor 3 Tage
Blowitup1991
Blowitup1991

why do they include a usb b on the controller, but not make it available externally, so people can use their own (LONGER) usb cables without having to open the darn thing?!

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Kim Jonny
Kim Jonny

simple, to save money

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Raimar Lunardi
Raimar Lunardi

Any input lag comparison?

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Damn You're Garbage
Damn You're Garbage

I hope they sell these separate ...Kind of cool if you need a longer cable you can just swap one in. They should have just put the port on the outside though

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DrathVader
DrathVader

Pretty cool that they used a micro USB connector internally. That way if you ever break the original cable you can just replace it with a regular off-the-shelf micro USB cable.

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Marcelo Kurashima
Marcelo Kurashima

Why did I decide that this would be a good video to watch while having breakfast?

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fatalicus
fatalicus

Huh, kind fun how they went from a grey switch pad on the d-pad on old controller to clear on the new, then from clear switch pad on action puttons on old to grey on the new. Almost like they didn't have any old controllers to check up against, and just remembered that "One of these pads should be clear, but whitch one..."

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SysPowerTools
SysPowerTools

you can use you own micro usb cable, or if it gets janky replace it's micro usb. nice

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Helvetica Scenario
Helvetica Scenario

How does this guy not know how the rubber pads work? They press against the pcb or plastic film with the carbon on it and it bridges the connection. There is no "switch".

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DaemosDaen
DaemosDaen

That old controller did NOT under ANY circumstance come with the original PS1 at all. 100% of the original controllers were grey, the smoke controllers were not available until after the release of the 3rd model of PS1. The old school cable DOES come off the connector is female the solider you see there is simply post for the cable connect to connect to. with the age of that controller and the pain it was to take it off, I do not recommend actually removing it. Funny thing is that the buttons themselves have been using the rubber button design since the SNES (maybe NES, never took one of those controllers apart) From what I understand the emulator and ROM choices make it a bad buy. Game selection does not help. I want to see a DualShock version of those Controllers.

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inlovewithi
inlovewithi

I think the new PCB is so cool, and love that it has a micro USB connection, but it's really not some sort of major technological advancement.. The components are just placed into the smaller area, while the part that makes the connection to the button is spread out on a clear plastic. While the original controller's PCB is mainly bigger because it also covers the function for the physical connection of the buttons.

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Tyler Smith
Tyler Smith

No dual shock controller? How do you play ape escape on this thing

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Ms Nikita
Ms Nikita

Just so you know, the original Japanese version of the PlayStation Controller were ever so slightly smaller than the western counterpart. The size difference isn't visibly noticeable till you have them both side by side, certainly noticeable when you use them. I personally find the Japanese version more comfortable.

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TEN4
TEN4

For reference my PS4 launch day controller’s membrane failed after about 100 hours of use. So not very reliable. But I replaced it for approx. $3 and a half hour of effort so it’s cheap.

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Akira Oni
Akira Oni

Does this controller work on PS4 ?

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benbmusic88
benbmusic88

That was fun

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Korey Willis
Korey Willis

You should have scraped that controller and sent it out to 23 and me to see if it belonged to the descendant of royalty.

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Koulkrith D
Koulkrith D

Those rubber caps serve an electrical purpose. They are coated with graphite. This coating serves as contact to link two electrical pathways.

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Zach Long
Zach Long

Think about all the Human skin that you breathed in. D:

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Lotus cola
Lotus cola

Micro usb inside is really cool, makes it a great item for use and collecting. only that was an analog.

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Broadway Gaming
Broadway Gaming

Went side by side for 2 steps, then finished 1 controller before the other. I'm fine with it but I mean cmon, don't say they'll be side by side step by step then.... finish 1 off before the other.

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Src Computers
Src Computers

This ended up being much more interesting than expected. Haha, thanks.

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Joseph Keene
Joseph Keene

Buy that man a box of disposable gloves!

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GifCo
GifCo

Didnt realize Steve was such a germophobe! lol

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SteelSkin667
SteelSkin667

Sony's been using that membrane design since the PS2 - I think it was needed for the pressure sensitive buttons of the PS2 and PS3 controllers. It's a proven design, those controllers are reliable.

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Tomáš Berecz
Tomáš Berecz

Enjoyed this more than anticipated.

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Robert T
Robert T

The circuit board isn't all that primitive unlike the way he makes it sound.

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KuraIthys
KuraIthys

I did wonder about the D-pad on the playstation controllers - Nintendo held a patent on the design of D-pads until around about 2001... You'll find all manner of weird quirks in their design prior to that point (anyone want to speculate why the Sony pad isn't cross-shaped? XD), which mostly exist to circumvent that patent. The design of D-pads seems to have converged a lot more after the patent expired...

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KuraIthys
KuraIthys

Huh. That's a strange design - attaching an actual USB cable internally like that... Frankly looking at this, while not identical either (how could it be when it uses an entirely different communications protocol?) Nintendo's replica controllers are way closer to their originals than these are. (so much so that to some extent you could swap several components between an original controller and the replica ones and it'd pretty much work out correctly.) Obviously the downside to that is it replicates any major design flaws perfectly too, but authenticity is authenticity I guess. Well, not really. There are a few minor tweaks that no doubt have certain implications to durability and cost... (they aren't exact replicas of the original plastic shells for instance, even if they ARE close, which means it's not a re-use of the original plastic moulds.) But ehh. Don't know what sony's done here, or whether it truly matters, but it certainly isn't the same...

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Dave Dörenberg-Veltman
Dave Dörenberg-Veltman

You didn't disassemble the trigger buttons on the new controller. But seeing this thing on the inside with this much redesign I don't think Sony decides to bring out the dual shock controller later on.

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hazonku
hazonku

That's a super amazing design. My sister got one of those mini NES consoles & the first thing I noticed was that Nintendo went with proprietary bullshit yet again. Nice to see Sony actually wants people to use this thing for a long time & designed it to be easily serviced.

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jjsk555
jjsk555

It's cool but overall its nearly the same as a ras pie

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Thomas Richter
Thomas Richter

The new one is basically a usb rubber membrane keyboard. Plastic sheet with contacts and dome button conductor and a small controller PCB.

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swrzesinski
swrzesinski

The black CONDUCTIVE carbon pads on rubber actually have ELECTRICAL function. The "switches" on flex are actually two pads that are bridged by the carbon pads. When you are doing technical companion you need to know how the technology "they had back then" works...... The bumpers on old controller are probably same style buttons but on separate PCB, there is probably no delay whatsoever because of slightly longer signal path.

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Astraldragon Gaming
Astraldragon Gaming

Man I sold those when they first came out. You had to open them to clean out the gunk because the buttons would jam up some times and very rarely the rubber hat died

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Rocket Bunny
Rocket Bunny

everytime someone said "bracket" i see "the verge", ok im sorry keep on

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nikitaluger
nikitaluger

1:11 Extra THICC heatsink

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rattle
rattle

1)Is there any problems with Dpad of PS classic gamepad? I mean random false direction pressing 2)Does PC recongize PS classic gamepad?

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Levi Lemke
Levi Lemke

same as a ps2

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rogert151
rogert151

I use simple green on trift store controllers, let it soak lol

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Splice Tape
Splice Tape

Am I the only one who kind of wants the usb cable just for the Playstation shaped plug?

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Mike Clarke
Mike Clarke

Ive not pulled a gamepad apart since Sege Master System

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White92Guy
White92Guy

unsure if the new controller uses the same type of connection to the console but if it does, you could replace the cable with a micro usb to usb and use it for emulators. That being said, you could just get a PS3 controller wired (unsure if they made a first party one) and use that instead. Of course there will be people saying that it's not the same but I had a Dual Shock controller for my PSone and didn't even know there was a controller without the joy sticks until over a decade later. I do own the Crash N'sane Trilogy and the Spyro Reignited trilogy and for Crash, d-pad all the way, for Spyro I can swap back and forth without issue.

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Emmett Turner
Emmett Turner

You didn’t check to see if the buttons and rubber pads were interchangeable?!

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Emmett Turner
Emmett Turner

I wouldn’t say that the mylar flex PCB is a “good design.” That’s why PS2 DualShock 2 controllers are all going bad. It’s a big part of the problem with notorious Atari 5200 CX-52 controllers as well.

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Soul Burner
Soul Burner

I wonder if plugging the micro USB from the inside of the new PS classic controller to a different, let's say a Nintendo switch controller would work on the console.

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482lost
482lost

That's basically how the PS2 controllers (and maybe onward, never took those ones apart myself) are. Those flexible films instead of actual boards. I've found though that both are tolerant of washing under hot, running water and with soap. Just have to let them dry on a vent for, oh, about a week. It does clear most of the gunk out though.

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Bruce Cox
Bruce Cox

it would be interesting to see the PS1 mini vs a similarly priced SBC with similar emulator software

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Chris Nightingale
Chris Nightingale

So that's just boggo membrane keyboard mechanism in there. Neat, I guess, probably the same design Sony uses in their other current controllers at a guess. Cheap, simple and works. Looks to me like the shell was made by taking the external CAD model for the original moulding and using that as a basis for the new design, they seem externally identical.

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Brett Prior
Brett Prior

You could break off of that micro usb header in the controller with a bluetooth transponder... wireless controller...

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Dan Gs4m
Dan Gs4m

Input lag comparison?

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xSeRosiSx
xSeRosiSx

If I recall correctly they've been using the membrane style switches since the PS2 with the main PCB sitting behind it. Yeah, iFixIt has a DualShock 2 teardown that shows this: http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/DualShock+2+Disassembly/50763 EDIT: Actually it goes all the way to the DualShock 1: http://www.instructables.com/id/Clean-Your-DualShock-Controller/

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moo mäh
moo mäh

Used controllers are always tasty. xD The first thing after getting a used console is always taking the controllers apart and cleaning them thoroughly. All the grime around the D-Pad and buttons, more sweat than skin I believe. Also don't forget the contacts! The new D-Pad with it's "stick" in the middle reminds me of old Mega Drive / Genesis controllers. Usage caused them to rub away, resulting in the D-Pad not working properly anymore. Later revisions solved this problem. This controller could have the same problems after heavy usage. Btw, I somehow miss having to set jumpers on the motherboards and hdds instead of being able to change everything within the bios. Also manually typing in cylinders, heads and sectors when installina a hdd. Just joking. Had fun times, trying to unlock my DX2/80 which run as a DX2/66 but sadly failing because the mobo didn't seem to support it though. Btw, PCI sucks, VESA Local Bus ftw!

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h347h
h347h

So basically the controllers for this are actually pretty good. Shame you have to buy a PS classic to get one.

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1Tanker
1Tanker

I haven't seen it asked or posted, but do you have link for that loupe? I'd be interested in checking out the price... at 53, my eyes need all the help they can get! TIA

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Drew Pickard
Drew Pickard

Pretty cool video, I didnt think I'd care much about controllers but that was a very good comparision between old and new tech. Wouldnt mind seeing more videos like this, Maybe teardown a psone (either original or mini or both haha) and compare to the new mini one would be neat.

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Kyle
Kyle

rip to the presenter who can't correctly figure out how a key membrane works

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Darkmastergrey
Darkmastergrey

If sony is anything like nintendo, the reason the gel pads are so similar is because they just kept reusing the same design over the years.

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Zac Fridenmaker
Zac Fridenmaker

20 minutes!?

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scythelord
scythelord

New one works almost identically to membrane switch keyboards, which are still most keyboards. Hell even the original IBM mechanical clicky keyboards used a membrane switch underneath it all.

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Kofi Osei
Kofi Osei

anyone know if these controllers work on ps4s? legit considering buying a classic just for the controller rofl

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