Ryzen 3000, Radeon 3000 Series LEAKS - It's Game On!


AdoredTV
AdoredTV

Just an FYI for those wondering if the Reddit leak was before my leak - no it wasn't. I got all this information days ago, it just takes a long time to check other sources and obviously make the video. ;)

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Taj Watkins
Taj Watkins

+AdmiralDankBar yes, all except the 9 series

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Buddha BlessYou
Buddha BlessYou

How many PCIe lanes will it support? 20 x gen3 is not enough

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Aman Tanwar
Aman Tanwar

AdoredTV look what Snapdragon doing bro

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ajc9988
ajc9988

+TheGuruStud - just to add a bit more, here is where GF offers 2.5D and 3D advanced packaging solutions at 32nm and 28nm. http://www.globalfoundries.com/sites/default/files/product-briefs/pb-aps-10-web.pdf Here is where they recently packaged HBM with an ASIC. http://www.rambus.com/blogs/globalfoundries-demonstrates-2-5d-high-bandwidth-memory-hbm-solution/ Here is GF materials discussing the difficulties in scaling: http://www.globalfoundries.com/sites/default/files/product-briefs/pb-aps-10-web.pdf Granted, they are not the only company providing such services, but I mention them specifically as a deal could be cut to make the active interposers on silicon wafers fulfill part of AMDs WSA, thereby preventing penalty payments for manufacturing 7nm at TSMC. If they had the interposers done and integration done by another provider, the penalties for the WSA would still be in place and AMD would be paying more overall than cutting a deal with GF, even if GF would cost more than competing solutions. Edit: I also forgot to mention the heat density for the HBM2 eating into the TDP of the cores, thereby hitting core speed, which would hurt on mainstream, but less so for server or HEDT markets. Wanted to add that before it came up. Since I do advocate for its use, it is my responsibility to be able to address these concerns. Also, I do not know what the cost per GB on the 8-hi stacks from Samsung are at the moment, which assuredly cost more, have not addressed the problems on trying to get the same height of the memory and core chips on the interposer and those challenges, etc. At Vega release, a 4GB stack was around $80, meaning $160+$25 interposer, approximately. Even with the lower price down to $50 or $60 per 4GB stack, due to space premiums on PCB, and 2x8GB stacks would need used, likely meaning $100-120 easily per stack. But, when comparing it to what is considered fast DDR4, the pricing doesn't seem so outlandish nowadays after the ram shortage pushed up DDR4 prices so high.

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ajc9988
ajc9988

+TheGuruStud - I disagree here for the simple idea that it costs too much. Look at the pricing of 32GB of HBM2. Now compare that to the cost of 32GB of DDR4 at a speed that is any good. If the argument is you no longer must spend, say $400 for fast DDR4, while having bandwidth in multiples of 10x what consumers receive (50GBps vs 512GBps), then it begs the question. Now, on mainstream chips, that is a hard ask, but 16GB is reasonable, so cut the $400 cost of ram to $200, and explain the bandwidth increase and benefits, then there is a chance. For TR and Epyc chips, it is just taking it from designs that already implement HBM stacked on GPU dies on a disintegrated APU design, already planned for supercomputers. The higher bandwidth is used locally, while the DDR4 just keeps the on-die memory fed, which has half the bandwidth of L3, which is half the bandwidth of L2. If they do the dual interposer, they could move the 512GB bandwidth up to 1TB, thereby practically matching the L3 on speed, but losing in regards of latency (which is why you would have it operate, in effect, as an L4 caching system that can achieve higher bandwidth than eDRAM achieved). With servers it makes the most sense, as you can support up to 4TB of memory, and keeping a local cache of 32GB of the most important elements of the 4TB certainly would help. With HEDT, TR supports up to 128GB currently for quad channel and I personally achieve around 100GBps max throughput on my ram (4133 dimms SR running 3466@CL14). On interposer, the HBM2 latency can be reduced to be around the 60ns range, give or take, possibly faster if overclocked or when HBM3 arrives (hoping that 7nm reduces production costs). If given an option between a chip with or without it on my next TR, I would take with so long as the latency is relatively good compared to DDR4 or DDR5. Even with doubling the bandwidth, HBM2 still beats out DDR5, so latency is the primary question. We may also need to wait until the I/O die can effectively (read as cost) be shrunk to 7nm with EUV. This is more to free up package space to allow for integration of HBM onto package more easily. Now, sticker price of even 16GB of HBM2 stuck onto a mainstream die, adding $200 (estimating around $50 for a 4GB stack, although $12/GB was common a couple months ago, let's go with $15 equaling $240) would cause some to question why, even if the bandwidth is multiples of what they are used to (they do not know the reason for paying $200-300 for 3600-4266MT ram other than faster equals better; see http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232472&ignorebbr=1 ). Suddenly, when put into perspective like that, HBM, even on consumer chips, can make sense, or other dedicated memory solutions. To be honest, this is something I've been arguing for for awhile now. The primary reason I have heard against it is latency, yet I have found zero published data on the topic except for low latency variants pushed by vendors like Samsung for incorporation onto packages, which Intel did on Xeon Phi add-in cards. But Xeon Phi use an interposer, IIRC, meaning we are waiting for the fruition of work AMD did on butter-donuts covered by Jim awhile back. And the costs related to active interposers for VIAS implementation are still quite expensive, unfortunately, especially as some companies only offer the service for that type of integration (2.5D and 3D TSV) on active interposers at 32nm and below, which if you recall the cost analysis is where the curve on costs go up so that it practically matches the cost of a monolithic die, negating the cost efficiencies of disintegrated chips on interposers. I'd love to hear your arguments regarding it in light of approximately $12/GB for HBM2 (not being caddy here, rather meaning this in earnest).

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Nguyen Chanh
Nguyen Chanh

6 Cores 12 threads by 50 watts. Rest in Peace Intel......

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highview seeker
highview seeker

but i JUST bought my 1800x

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Taj Watkins
Taj Watkins

It's interesting how many other people in tech are using your information but dont say anything or agknowlage you until you have something they don't. I loved hearing your name on all over in the past couple days. I sure hope your channel gets a lot of subs

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Aman Tanwar
Aman Tanwar

What you guyz think what will be the effect on the GPU prices mining or crypto prices after launch of these

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White Male
White Male

The Vega 64 already goes back and fourth with the 1080 so if navi 10 has +15% in performance it could beat the 2080

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Phillip Habsburg
Phillip Habsburg

Adoredtv is going to lose all credibility LOL.

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Richard Summers
Richard Summers

GRATS JIM YOUR FAMOUS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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CRF250R1521
CRF250R1521

Why does it day 14nm and not 7nm on the die

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ud2hb4
ud2hb4

My phenom II 965 brought me here. Good Job AMD.

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Steve RX4
Steve RX4

12C runs faster than 6C yet has less than twice the TDP. Similar with 8C/16C. Sus!

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MysticalQuoll
MysticalQuoll

Buy a 1700 now or wait for a 3600? I just want a cheap 8 cores

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Scott Lhotka
Scott Lhotka

Are these going to run on the AM4 socket?

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Nazaev
Nazaev

What the heck is this fake bullshit news for RX 3000 Series GPU's from AMD? This nomenclature have copyright by nVidia! They will continue with 600 series and RX 590 proofing that!

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Naga Sadhu
Naga Sadhu

"This nomenclature have copyright by nVidia! " oO boi, the cringe

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AdoredTV
AdoredTV

Nvidia has "copyrighted" RX 3000 now have they?

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AurochsReborn
AurochsReborn

RIP Intel.. Rust In Pieces. good riddance

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Möt Crüe
Möt Crüe

Just sold my 4790 k, bought a 8086 k!! I’m done :(

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elliott m
elliott m

keeping freesync in mind i truly hope this is true. you could save a ton of money compared to a 1080ti+gsync monitor, not to mention the savings on cpu.

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Robert Hale
Robert Hale

3700X is the CPU I want to replace my 2600

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Awestrike
Awestrike

Damnit, Scotty! I need 16 cores! 15:39

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Ganaram Inukshuk
Ganaram Inukshuk

Few days later and I have a pattern: Ryzen 1 (theoretical, doesn't exist): 4 cores Ryzen 3: 6 cores Ryzen 5: 8 cores Ryzen 7: 12 cores Ryzen 9: 16 cores Ryzen 11 and 13 (theoretical, corresponds to Threadripper): 24 and 32 cores Ryzen 15 and 17 (theoretical, corresponds to Epyc): 48 and 64 cores Ryzen 19 and Ryzen 21 (super duper theoretical, closest thing is two Epycs on one board): 96 and 128 cores There's bound to be a mathematical function that maps odd numbers to powers of 2 and 3/4ths powers of 2.

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[Demaulicus] Iris Heart
[Demaulicus] Iris Heart

@AdoredTV I reviewed the chart based off your list and the frequencies on it don't make any sense. If you look at the desktop parts they seem off. For me it will look closer to the following: Ryen 3 6C/12T - Base Clock: 4.5GHz Boost Clock: 5GHz Ryzen 5 8C/16T - Base Clock: 4.4GHz Boost Clock: 4.9GHz Ryzen 7 12C/24T - Base Clock: 4.3GHz Boost Clock: 4.8GHz Ryzen 9 16C/32T - Base Clock: 4.2GHZ Boost Clock 4.7GHz The chips that can clock to this will most likely be used for laptops as they are frequency limited. The 7nm should have about 25% Base and Boost Clocks over the old Ryzen CPUs. With this information I took the Ryzen 1000 series when applicable then used the equivalent Threadripper specs for the higher end. As the cores increased I accounted for a slight frequency drop but these are very good specs. Time will tell the official results but this is the range I see with the new CPUs.

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[Demaulicus] Iris Heart
[Demaulicus] Iris Heart

+Kaiwei Sung It is a slight decrease and focused on the thermal aspect. If that isn't an issue and the chips are binned "perfectly" then sure. However, I see most of the chips that have defects that drop low enough to go towards laptops and thin client systems before they hit the PC building enthusiasts. OEMs might see a lower frequency too since it would possibly help lower costs for prebuilt shops.

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Kaiwei Sung
Kaiwei Sung

Why would the frequency decrease as they get better and better binned? u even know how binning works? his frequencies make complete sense. It is harder to make a base clock high for something that has many cores. But thats where binning does its job. amd aren't going to make their ryzen 3 faster than their ryzen 7 in single core its just common sense

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average Joe
average Joe

This time around I will build my first pc, I intend to use 2200g for some time and then buy a rx570 or rx580 or gtx1060, or rx3060?another option is to wait for 3200g I don't know what is better ,can you let me out???

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matsv201
matsv201

Congrats. It seams like this video blow up the channel. You are with the big boys now ;)

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SubnetMask
SubnetMask

Mate it's at the point where I'm telling my friends I was cool before everyone else because "I was a subscriber back when he was doing Elite Dangerous vids"

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TheMmex
TheMmex

It seems you are getting slowly the recognition you deserve. PCGH and Computerbase both covered your Video. But you knew that by now^^ On the other hand... if linus would have made this video, there would be more than 1 million views by now. Its a shame. Your Santas hat reminded me its only 2 weeks until Christmas- Wish you all the best for the "quiet time" and a good new year!

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DankMcSpank
DankMcSpank

Wait a second, are you telling me that they might release a $250 GPU that outperforms the Vega 64 by 15% which currently costs around $650?... That has to be some sort of mistake right?...

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Diglo1
Diglo1

I need to add to this that people would understand why these numbers might be closer to reality then people are giving AMD credit for. AMD is claiming >1,25x performance on TSMC's 7nm vs Global Foundries 14nm at the same power. However this likely doesn't take into account that Zen 2 design is much different from Zen/Zen+ architecture. Binning is the key here. AMD might get 25% more performance if the architecture stayed the same, however Zen 2 has small core chiplets giving AMD the chance to bin these very small chips for higher clocks at the same power hence ">"1,25x. 7nm might be 25% improvement over 14nm yet binning and small chiplets will increase the headroom quite a bit. TDP is another thing complitely. AMD's equation for TDP comes from "average" use case which means you can go above it if you use all the cores 100%. Giving 135W TDP for 16 core chip sounds low, but comparing it to Threadrippers which has ~430mm2 worth of slicon at 180w TDP, if you take 25% of that you get 135W which is exactly what Ryzen 3850X is suggested to have. Still 3850X has a lot higher claimed clocks which would mean that the performance increase from binning is giving us more then 25% improvement. Still I think the base clock is still a bit too high and clocks + prices are subjects to chance till the release which could be as early as end of may. Then lets talk about 6 cores with SMT for 99$. 2700x/2600/1800x/1700x/1700/1600 etc. all are made from the same 213mm2 die what ever it's 14nm or 12nm. The amount of silicon is the same as Ryzen 2200G at 210mm2 which costs 99$ meaning that if the silicon cost is not the issue then they can give 6 cores for 99$ as the threadrippers still require those Zen/Zen+ dies and leftovers can be used for these 6c/12t parts. AMD can make these CPUs what are listed. However if the TDP raitings are finalized then the clockspeeds are subject to chance and so are the prices if Intel doesn't respond with anything.

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Diglo1
Diglo1

+DUpanda ShAN This is true, yet 75mm dies which can and will ve used as 6 cores will have yields closer to 100% then 90%.

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DUpanda ShAN
DUpanda ShAN

Most important for silicon cost is not die size is the yield on the wafer.

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iL AMV
iL AMV

Finally you got the attention from all the tech media, that you actually always deserved. Congratulations!

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Matthew Menteer
Matthew Menteer

I hope its true, just watched hardware unboxed counter argue... But I'm inclined to be hopeful. i just bought a Vega 64 over the past sales and couldn't be more pleased. I have a reference design @ 1750 mhz on the core utilized at 100% pulling in

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Noan YoBiseniss
Noan YoBiseniss

Lol, duron...Where's Thunderbird?

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Tobi
Tobi

I have the MSI Nightblade Mi2-237. Its small and there is limited space in it. I found this ZOTAC GAMING GeForce RTX 2070 MINI. Its small and would fit in the pc. (Im not sure, cuz im trash to computers) The Gpu is small but do it get worse becuase its small ? Plz answer :)

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happy merchant
happy merchant

Love your content, and detailed explanations. Your accent is entertaining, like little jokes every few sentences which make you giggle. Btw, I would love to get the 3850X, I have no Idea what to do with 16C/32T. 12C/24T should last me a lifetime, unless Microsoft Office plans on including 4K rendered Graph's. Video games are more GPU dependant and dont require 12Core, nore will they need it (unless they want to abandon Low end and Laptop gamers)

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mohit9206
mohit9206

If this is true and its a big IF then ryzen 3300G will be my next cpu.

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zerocool
zerocool

Bring back black edition that would be epic

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Roosta
Roosta

140k views, 8.8k likes but only 77k subs! Come on people! Credit the man for all the hard work that goes into these videos. He is a beacon of integrity in a world of paid for ( and secretly sponsored) videos! A sub cost you nothing but it will keep this channel alive. Support independence.

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Will B
Will B

Looks like it’s Ryzen 9 for me.

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P4F Elton
P4F Elton

so if you buy an 3700x with an 3080...u will get a best of a cpu attached to a mid range GF (not complaining taking in consideration the price) but i still think in terms of performance nvidia is still on top (even that an a absurd fucking price tag)

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STR33TSofJUST1C3
STR33TSofJUST1C3

Affordable GPU's at upper-mid range is how they will steal market share from NVIDIA. AMD knows it's more important to steal market share rather than have an expensive high-end GPU that competes with the RTX 2080ti or RTX Titan.

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Daniel Young
Daniel Young

Would love to see a follow up video looking at what Ryzen Mobile might look like based on this information

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DUpanda ShAN
DUpanda ShAN

The reason G chips exist is leftover from mobile chips.

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Bark Industry
Bark Industry

Wow! Thanks for sharing! Even if half of this is true, INTEL is in a big trouble. As nice as top of the line gear is, most of us (me especially) don't need it, something mid to high end is just perfect for my personal use which is mainly Adobe products and multi-tasking. :)

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Devawrat Vidhate
Devawrat Vidhate

I'm just curious is this speaking English with irish accent ....?

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Cipi SixZeroFour
Cipi SixZeroFour

Scotia English

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Huy Đức Lê
Huy Đức Lê

Now that every other tech channel share your leak, I think it has become too popular to be good. If this is true, then your channel will be credited more than every single video before combined. But if it happens to be false, then everybody will know your channel as some rumor hype fake news bs and take away any credit you have to new viewers. It's risky

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Cipi SixZeroFour
Cipi SixZeroFour

Risky... But it makes sense

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Dench Clement
Dench Clement

Gonna have to build a pc in january 2019

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Hong Zeng
Hong Zeng

I’m on a 7700k OC 5ghz. Itching to upgrade to that R9 3850x. If the rumours are true, then Zen 2 might be an overlocking beast. But all those extra cores lol I’ll never use that many cores but I want the best of the best

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David DeBroux
David DeBroux

How long until I actually start slamming a dollar to your Patreon fund just to stalk your Discord server, mister Jim???

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RAY M
RAY M

Tbh Radeon needs consistency gpu name Like 200 300 400 500 its ok what ever name is attached front but 3000?

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DUpanda ShAN
DUpanda ShAN

If you think about it 3000 cpu`s with 3000 gpu`s is actualy good.

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Brother Gamer
Brother Gamer

When is CES ?

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Cipi SixZeroFour
Cipi SixZeroFour

+STR33TSofJUST1C3 lol... My bad

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STR33TSofJUST1C3
STR33TSofJUST1C3

+Cipi SixZeroFour Oh, I though you meant the 19th of January.

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Cipi SixZeroFour
Cipi SixZeroFour

+STR33TSofJUST1C3 that s what I said. January 2019

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STR33TSofJUST1C3
STR33TSofJUST1C3

+Cipi SixZeroFour No, CES2019 is January 8 to 12. AMD's keynote is January 9.

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Cipi SixZeroFour
Cipi SixZeroFour

Jan 19

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simone mario davì
simone mario davì

these chips will be compatible on x370 mobo?

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Cipi SixZeroFour
Cipi SixZeroFour

Except r9

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Pablo Yong
Pablo Yong

Good job Jim, very good in fact, you did good, thank you and enjoy the benefits! I'm sure Lisa Su herself gave you the leaks :D

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BGfootballfan
BGfootballfan

The 3850x looks really good. Guess ill wait tillMay/June for my new build.

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Rambles
Rambles

I am a bit worried about how the processor will keep itself cool with those graphics being put to the max.

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Cipi SixZeroFour
Cipi SixZeroFour

Who told you they are put to the Max?

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Fuddy Duddy
Fuddy Duddy

Why not release a 3600X with like a small 6CU vega10/12 on it. Utilizing the iGPU to sell the chips on freesync as well for Nvidia users.

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GodfreyDeK
GodfreyDeK

#Sneakattack

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Omar K
Omar K

RIP Intel, all hail AMD

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geofrancis2001
geofrancis2001

@adoredtv, if like you said in your other video that the io chip has support for different memory types do you think we will see laptops with only GDDR6 or HBM2 for the main memory and graphics a bit like a ps4.

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MisterPikol
MisterPikol

wish the guy in the video spoke english

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Cipi SixZeroFour
Cipi SixZeroFour

I'd you can't understand it's because you're retarded

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Austin P
Austin P

This is for the skeptics: The 3800X has only 11% higher base clocks than the 2950X. The 3850X has 23% higher base clocks, which pushes the limit. The 3800X has only 20% higher base clocks than the 2920X with boosts being only 16% higher. These percentages neglect the all-core boosts of the Ryzen 2000 chips. If the all-core boosts are more conservarive on Ryzen 3000, the practical clock increases over Ryzen 2000 are even smaller than these. These clocks are within official claims. The issue is the clocks combined with the TDP, but TDP does not mean much, if anything. AMD said 1.25x the performance at the same power for EPYC Rome. If this includes IPC gains (which I expect), these leaks still leave room for an average of 4% IPC gains. BUT, that number is for EPYC. And, I think that expecting more on Ryzen is reasonable. If you have seen graphs of CPU clocks vs core voltages, you know that efficiency decreases with higher clocks. If AMD reduces the rate at which this efficiency decreases, 1.25x for EPYC around 2.5-3.5GHz could be ~1.35x for Ryzen at +4.0GHz. Since Ryzen 1000 efficiency tanked around 4.0GHz (Ryzen 2000 probably tanks 200MHz higher, but I did not look at it), there is a lot of room for improvement. This would give more room for the 10-15% average IPC improvements that AMD claims for Zen 2. This is NOT wild speculation. AMD previously claimed 1.35x the performance for the same power consumption for EPYC Rome before changing it to 1.25x. This could be related to deciding to run EPYC at lower clocks. Alternatively, it could come from basing the number on more conservative IPC (4% rather than the 10-15%). If it is related to using a lower IPC, I do not think AMD is sandbagging. The IPC depends upon workload, and AMD has do decide which workloads or tests to base the IPC gains on. AMD could have dropped the reported IPC gains for EPYC based upon certain, popular server workloads rather than cherry-picking. Since AMD shot down wild speculation when people saw the special case of 29% IPC improvement, I think that AMD is trying to truthfully communicate the performance of Zen 2. Now, let us look outside AMD. The 3600X is not that far from the Core i9-9900k, which is on Intel's 14nm process. It has an all-core turbo of 4.3GHz and a max turbo of 5.0GHz. If Intel's 10nm process worked (very similar to TSMC's 7nm before Intel decreased the density), wouldn't people expect the process to produce a chip better than the 9900k? In the least, the chip could be more efficient. In that sense, even the leaked TDP numbers for Ryzen 3000 seem reasonable, but that is speculating far outside of what AMD has said. The Ryzen 3000 leaks seem reasonable, although a best case scenario. Even if this is mostly true, I expect power consumption to be similar to current Ryzen and Threadripper parts. And, of course, these prices and clocks will probably change many times within AMD until launch. I am doubtful if these being final as claimed due to the timing. Could AMD be releasing Ryzen 3000 earlier than expected? Regarding Navi, the naming is a low move, but AMD has done that before. Sinilarly, AMD has set insanely low prices before as well. At the same time, while being plausible, these claims are wild enough that I do not think someone would include them if trying to fake a leak. As for the performance and TDP, it is so early that those could be targets. Vega targeted the GTX 1080 long before release. And, this has Navi against the RTX 2070 at most, which is mid-range as people expected. So, while I have no expectations of these Navi numbers being accurate, the leak does seem reasonable.

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Emad
Emad

seems very impressive, but im still worried about latency from having the IO on a separate die. will wait for reviews before pulling the trigger.

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Musherva
Musherva

Hope its true , AMD n Lisa Su will become our Robin Hood

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James Bateman
James Bateman

Superb video Jim. Hopefully the Ryzen 9 continues with AM4 socket. Also, wonder if we’ll see high end GPUs to take on the 2080/2080ti

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Cipi SixZeroFour
Cipi SixZeroFour

No am4 for r9

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varun b
varun b

Amd testing intel and nvidia fans loyalty in 2019.

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GordonGartrell
GordonGartrell

Very interesting to see some of the push back on Jim’s speculation. I see a lot of “too good to be true” and “common sense test”. It makes me wonder if they even watched Jim’s videos on speed binning and economies of scale. Hopefully I understand what Jim meant, correct me if I’m wrong. But is the gist of it that by reusing chiplets across all the product lines, give you the ability to cherry pick better and better chips. Thus, this allows u to make a 16 core 5ghz Ryzen? If so, the “too good to be true” pricing is almost like PR for AMDs manufacturing and assembly techniques/prowess....if they can still grow profits at the same time.

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Faeozz
Faeozz

AMD should stop hugging intels nuts in the naming. The 3, 5, 7. 9 scheme is stupid, and copying the new 9 just makes it even more stupid. Intel will make an i11 next, to again create a 'better' version for the retarded part of the target audience.

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STR33TSofJUST1C3
STR33TSofJUST1C3

+Cipi SixZeroFour Intel's done far worse shit to AMD over the past 50 years than steal names. Corporate espionage, anyone?

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Cipi SixZeroFour
Cipi SixZeroFour

Let that be AMD's biggest problem

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STR33TSofJUST1C3
STR33TSofJUST1C3

Intel became popular and entrenched in the enterprise and consumer industry by its familiarity. AMD is hijacking that familiarity because last time AMD had the superior tech, companies were still using inferior Intel tech simply because of Intel's marketing. It might be a shitty move by AMD, but it's the very thing that kept Intel in the enterprise.

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Hugo diaz
Hugo diaz

3850x will definitely use new motherboard. Which what I will be doing. I bought the 2700x but kept my x370 motherboard. So 2 yrs for a motherboard is good enough.i figure that 12 cores definitely needs new motherboard anyways . If u buy the 3700x or lower u can probably use the old motherboards.

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Cipi SixZeroFour
Cipi SixZeroFour

R7 no,... R9 yea

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istuff
istuff

AMD bout to body Intel

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ShowsOn
ShowsOn

Surely the fastest Ryzen 9 needs to be announced at CES? Who would bother with buying the slower one when a faster one can be had for $50 more in May? Alternatively, it would have to be significantly more expensive, say $100 more and very limited edition like the 8086K.

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Krzych
Krzych

15% faster than Vega64 at half the TDP... and $250... You are making flat earth believers look reasonable.

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Cipi SixZeroFour
Cipi SixZeroFour

It.s on 7nm you fool

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NikoVanAthand
NikoVanAthand

That 3700X I hope it's true! IM GETTING THIS BABY!

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SnakePlizkin
SnakePlizkin

I really hope that Navi will run better with Unreal engine games, than Vega does.

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David H.
David H.

Wow this is the first Scottish or Irish (I'm sorry I'm not trying familiar enough to know which is which) channel that I've come across. 👍

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AdoredTV
AdoredTV

Scottish.

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Blade
Blade

Jim your video has started the hype train on the internet all the big YouTubers have seen it good stuff man I am surprised it hasn't gone viral

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hyou zan ren
hyou zan ren

for the love of god amd! give intel some breather!

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Daviid ranløv
Daviid ranløv

But steel is heavier than feathers

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Berkay Öztürk
Berkay Öztürk

is Ryzen 3th series be like AM4?

Vor 2 Tage
Dee
Dee

Didn't know Sean Connery did computers

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AdoredTV
AdoredTV

Yeah I'm very versatile.

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Peter Campbell
Peter Campbell

Take my money for the RX 3060 LP if that ever happens lol

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fatweeb
fatweeb

Here's hoping they will have a great memory controller to feed all those cores!

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Cipi SixZeroFour
Cipi SixZeroFour

That's easy

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Mateusz Zimowski
Mateusz Zimowski

wow my next CPU will be 16 cores :)))

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Nick Christensen
Nick Christensen

If Amd went with an 8 core ccx, it would almost be better to go with a 6 core ryzen 3 over a ryzen 5. 2 less cores, but they are all on the same ccx... if those ryzen 3's can overclock, there is a chance they can game better than a stock ryzen 5 due to the 5 being limited to 4 cores before a high latency chiplet jump. its good to know that AMD is targetting 3200mhz memory speed to help counteract that. EDIT: Actually that could help explain why the frequency is lower on the Ryzen 5 APU. That chip has all its eggs in one basket... or all its cores in one ccx. if it wasnt clocked lower, it might outperform the 12 cores in gaming applications.

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Sandeep Kumar MN
Sandeep Kumar MN

Thank you Jim, you saved me 1000$ from buying Intel parts... I would wait for AMD Ryzen 3600X and for GPUs' price to fall down... or even buy the Navi-based GPUs at their release...

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MizoxNG
MizoxNG

should this prove to be true, the 3600x will likely find a home in my b350 board

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Gottlieb M.
Gottlieb M.

Is it just me or is AMD pumping out those CPUs like crazy lately? I feel so far behind with my Godaveri and Steamroller systems. ^^

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Hess2906
Hess2906

I'm really excited to get a R7 3700x or R9 3850X for my next build, and hopefully the best Navi

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Aman Tanwar
Aman Tanwar

I'm feeling a revolution of price and quality like in India the internet balanced by Jio networks and now in graphic market AMD will bring peace and a tough competition and we all are in support my next build will be a pure ryzen build.

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Peter Tremblay
Peter Tremblay

Thank for this leak since i was very close to buy a 2070 and now i will wait to see if the 3080 is real and i imagine we should know by June! I would die a happy man if i can see the nvidia crooks getting a run fro their money!

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urban
urban

rip intel & amd is lobbbbbbbb, for me ryzen 3600gx is just perfect 😍😍😍

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nolyn bonner
nolyn bonner

if this leak is real ill subscribe

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Cipi SixZeroFour
Cipi SixZeroFour

And click on that bell

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SYNTHS!!
SYNTHS!!

I am unable to take my eyes off the 3850X. I think it's time to start putting together another computer soon...

Vor 2 Tage
Gerilac Gaming
Gerilac Gaming

Very excited about new Ryzen 5 3600X...currently I have Ryzen 3 1200 and GTX 1050 ti and I am pleased...check out my channel!

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Toms Tech
Toms Tech

just some working out r3-6c12t 1ccx 100=20£/core r3x-6c12t 1ccx 130=21.6£/core r3g-6c12t 1ccx 1gpu 130=21.6£/core r5-8c16t 2x4ccx 180=22.5£/core r5-8c16t 2x4ccx 230=28.75£/core r5g-8c16t 1ccx 1gpu 200=25£/core r7-12c24t 2x6ccx 300=25£/core r7-12c24t 2x6ccx 330=27.5£/core r9-16c32t 2x8ccx 450=28.125 r9-16c32t 2x8ccx 500=31.25£/core The best ones to buy assuming non-x are locked (that would be a first for amd in 10 years) are.. r3 3300x- 6 cores on 1 die for £130 r3 3300g-same deal but with a gpu if you dont need an OC. r5 3600x- 8 cores on 1 die for £230 r5 3600x- same deal as above if you dont need an OC.

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Gamer Freak
Gamer Freak

Okay Amd kick both intel and Nvidia @ss 🤣

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Philip Martin
Philip Martin

For performance, the 3300 is faster than Intel's high end laptop lineup, only 5 watts higher TDP, and 1/4 the price...

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Nathanael Brown
Nathanael Brown

Nvidia has left your channel Intel has left your channel

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Sir.TitWankEsquire
Sir.TitWankEsquire

Linus was going to source you for a second before saying it was reddit that leaked it and not you.

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Tim Kratz
Tim Kratz

Linus is a dick sometimes

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GodfreyDeK
GodfreyDeK

Hi Jim, what are your thoughts on Fudzilla's report that Intel's 7nm is on track for high volume production? This is due to 7nm and 10nm having been developed separately by different teams. Here's the article http://www.fudzilla.com/news/pc-hardware/47754-intel-might-have-7nm-quicker-than-expected

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BLUE FOX Creation
BLUE FOX Creation

Love you AMD😍

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mental_
mental_

I've been reading some of the things you posted on reddit. You've been putting chips on the table and now you're out. If this turns out to be wrong, it will most certainly end your youtube career and your good reputation. We know how hard you've worked for this, you wouldn't throw it away just for this bit of attention. I think that either you trust Kyle so much that you're willing to stick your neck out on his word, or your guy told you something that erased your doubts some other way. Look, I'm concerned here. Not only do I have a financial stake in this and don't know what to think, you've also now managed to get most of the tech press and every enthusiast under the sun involved. Can you maybe be a little less crazy in the future if this doesn't blow up in your face?

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mental_
mental_

I can't believe how far this has gone in just the last 3 days, you're seriously going all villain in glasses on everyone. Please spare us for the love of god

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Jozef SK
Jozef SK

would using ryzen 3300X be a better option when it comes to gaming than higher SKUs thx to its only core chiplet, removing the latency of communication between chiplets? and 6/12 thread cpu would be plenty for games, if overclockable to at least 4.8GHz?

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RCXDerp
RCXDerp

I just got a 9700k but I'm impatient and the 4670k has done enough

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Jonrock08
Jonrock08

Nice review, i think a Ryzen 5 3600 will be the sweet spot... more that an entry-level, more core/threads, no use cases for a Ryzen 7 if you only do is hardcore gaming and browsing web

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oldfrend
oldfrend

ahh ken crosh yuuu, like a warum!

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Andrew Soo
Andrew Soo

Luv your accent

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