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mcgman 80
mcgman 80

@JayzTwoCents , what voltage did you wind up at ? looks like you had to go a bit higher than I did to be stable. im at 1.26 @ 5GHZ with level 6 for LLC. (does jay even read these messages ? He always asks to leave comments below)

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Christopher Spears
Christopher Spears

Did you change the orientation of the fans for the radiators as well?

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Eric Wood
Eric Wood

The way this system performs, you should design systems for Apple! All of their Macs are small and overheat by design, and they still sell them at a premium price.

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jarrod1937
jarrod1937

After seeing your results with IHS lapping, I lapped my 9900k IHS last night... the results? An 8 degree Celsius drop! I kept the ambient temp, water temp, paste application...etc all the same (and measured the temps just in case). I ran a non-AVX Prime95 small FFT torture test for 20 minutes for each run. I already had my system overclocked to 5.1GHz on all cores at 1.3VCore under load, the package temps went from 88 degrees before lapping to 80 degrees after lapping. The extra thermal overhead allowed me to up the voltage a bit more and get a stable 5.15GHz overclock (hey, I'll take it). I was even able to run AVX Prime95 small FFT without thermal throttling, though just barely. Oddly there are two cores that stay unusually cool compared to the others (6-8 degree difference from the other cores), and these stayed the same before and after lapping. My guess is the solder TIM must be uneven in some way over the die, as all cores are getting the same voltage, the same load, and are at the same speed. However, considering how quick the lapping was to do, I'd certainly recommend others to try.

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Karthig1987
Karthig1987

Well done jay

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Cory Welter
Cory Welter

2019s hottest trend - external power supplies with custom io cabling

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D-One
D-One

Did you just do the temp testing with both sides of the case and top open !? 🤔

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Tylted
Tylted

Why didn't you liquid metal it? Would've helped a lot

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TheDutyPaid
TheDutyPaid

Looks like Walmart makes a better PC

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ProtoformX
ProtoformX

Over a hundred people who disliked cannot withstand the awesomeness of that small form factor rig :P

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Jesse Houwing
Jesse Houwing

A few days before he saws open a water cooler and now this... It must be revenge on the death of a family member ;).

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banescar
banescar

Fuck Intel so much...

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depth386
depth386

Man what a huge difference! Nice work on the problem solving, this is the real reason any serious person comes to your channel

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cmd
cmd

Impressive change from a small amount of modification.

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Jeff S
Jeff S

Jay I need some help building my 11yr old son his first computer our budget is $1,200-$1,500. He has been asking for the last 2yrs and don’t want to mess it up buying items I don’t need I’m disabled so I can only afford to do this once and want to build him a PC that will last. I really need your expertise on this I have watched 80% of your videos but still don’t know where to start thank you for your time. Jeff

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Konstantin Ivanov
Konstantin Ivanov

J just rotate the fan's :) you'll get Fresh air from above, use PSU for exhaust

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10/10 memes
10/10 memes

Pls tell me you cleaned the coolant you dropped in the psu

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Simpson
Simpson

i'm curious what had the bigger impact, the lapping or more thermal paste.

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Albert Stewart
Albert Stewart

Now imagine if you delid it, lap the die, and liquid metal it........ One can imagine 🤷🏾‍♂️

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Robert Frisch
Robert Frisch

Maybe you should have run a 2700x. Intel's knee jerk reactions to Ryzen are just sad.

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Self Aware Devices / Bilinçli Cihazlar
Self Aware Devices / Bilinçli Cihazlar

use thermal camera next time

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Stalker 90
Stalker 90

Fucking nvidia paid shill slut without honor...so discusting and pathetic you are jay. go fuck yourself stupid moron! 🤢🤮😡😡😡😡

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jarrod1937
jarrod1937

If this is a legitimate comment, I don't get the over the top anger... try to relax.

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Eric Shen
Eric Shen

Anyone else think that air cooling would work just fine in this case? The CPU cooler would aid in airflow and you could point it in any direction you wanted.

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Robert Spaulding
Robert Spaulding

If you watch the video at x0.75 speed he sounds like he has camera shyness lol

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Tyger
Tyger

built well, broke quick. bahahahaha!

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Dmitry Klokov
Dmitry Klokov

Push/Pull config, blowing into the case?

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Unlimited Gaming & Motorsport
Unlimited Gaming & Motorsport

I went from 8700k to 9900k and my temps are lower with the same 240mm AIO. 4.7GHz all core 1.20v benchmarks go up to 65c and ganes usually stay below 60c. It's not the cpu issue. Something is wrong with the block or something else is causing extreme heat buildup near the block.

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Itay Weinreb
Itay Weinreb

Heat doesn't raises... hot air raises because it is less dense than colder air....

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Robert Pendell
Robert Pendell

What voltage did your 5Ghz All core get to? I tried to do 5Ghz on my board. First I did the built in Auto... mistake as it hit 1.488 vCore (not comfortable) and was very much likely throttling as when I ran Cinebench I saw it jump around between 4.3Ghz and 5Ghz a ton. A second run of 5Ghz vCore got it to get stable 5Ghz but I had some cores getting near or at 100C which I didn't like at all and vCore was still at 1.44. In the end I settled at 4.7Ghz vCore because it tested on Cinebench the same (yes it did) and it was a good 20C cooler.

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jarrod1937
jarrod1937

+Robert Pendell, I'm going to spread the news though. After watching this video I decided to try lapping my 9900k. Took about 15 minutes and resulted in a 10% temp drop. If you're throttling, and are comfortable with it, I'd recommend giving that a try, will increase your thermal overhead.

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jarrod1937
jarrod1937

+Robert Pendell, ah good. I still test with AVX, but without a lot of work, that will throttle the 9900k pretty easily. And in that case, I'd not even recommend Cinebench for temps though. If you're looking for worst case, Prime95 small FFT runs a lot hotter, about 20 Celsius for me.

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Robert Pendell
Robert Pendell

+jarrod1937 Yea. I was mostly watching temps and looking for throttling. I wasn't using Cinebench as a stability factor but as a tool to put load on it. Same with Prime95 and I did disable AVX.

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jarrod1937
jarrod1937

Additionally, others may disagree (everyone has their favorite), I wouldn't use Cinebench for stability testing. I found I can be really unstable and Cinebench will happily complete. I'd recommend Prime95, the older version without AVX, or newer version with AVX disabled. For the newest version of Prime95, run it once, and a local.txt file will be created in the applications directory, then add this line to it: CpuSupportsAVX=0 I don't think it's required, but then close and reopen Prime95. I then do small FFT as the test, despite what it says I found small FFT to produce the largest power draw as well as heat. If you can run stable for an hour I'd say your system is good. I personally like to run it for 12+ hours to make sure, but that's not required. It'll tell you if one of the worker threads error'ed out (assuming you don't outright freeze), but the easiest way to tell is that your core utilization will decrease if a worker thread errors out.

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jarrod1937
jarrod1937

Unless you just got unlucky, your voltage is way too high for 5GHz. Keep in mind, in overclocking you want the lowest voltage that gives you stability, and as you learned, stability but thermal throttling is counterproductive. I think you went about it backwards, start at stock speeds and voltages, then up the speed/clock until you get unstable, then up the voltage, then go higher with the clock until instability, then up the voltage...etc. Eventually you'll reach a point where one of three things may happen. The first is your cooling is limiting you (or the thermal interface is limiting, aka, Intel). The second is the voltage exceeds what you feel is safe. The third, you reach the maximum your CPU will go, regardless of voltage. At that point I'd back off the clock/voltage slightly, and say you've found your max overclock. I'd highly recommend not using automatic tools, they still seem to set really high voltages at times. If you start low, I think you might be able to find a better overclock before you throttle... but obviously there is luck involved with your setup and the processor itself.

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Sean Bradshaw
Sean Bradshaw

I learned in my nCase M1 with a bottom mounted rad, that I couldn't pump air up through the chassis, when I swapped the fan direction it decreased system temps by 10c. So now all the cool air comes in at the top and back and leaved through the bottom, and that's with 2 slimline fans doing the pumping out. What Jay needs to have is inlets on either side, and air OUT both top and bottom for a negative pressure chassis. Also I won't use a colored fluid again, it looks neat, but just distilled water and an additive. That way it stays clean and it's more visible when it does have issues.

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Janko Kinčeš
Janko Kinčeš

Please contact intel for flating cpu and set it to 5ghz on all cores with 1.2 volts

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discostoo
discostoo

You could throw that CPU at the bottom of the fucking sea and it'd still be too hot.

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Daniel Ogg
Daniel Ogg

cast aluminum - 35 cents per pound. stainless steel - 30 cents per pound. loque ghost s1 - made of aluminum alloy and steel (not stainless mind you) weight - 5.5lbs. Costs $250.00 ExCuSe mE WhAt ThE FuCk?

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MrAcuta73
MrAcuta73

Welcome to ITX....I built my own case. Air cooled, but...yeah.

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xerox3333
xerox3333

In next weeks episode Jay runs another high end intel cpu on the belt sander

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itsLyso
itsLyso

In case you get the chance, I would love to see a Titan RTX or Quadro RTX 6000 review.

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Oliver The III
Oliver The III

Not surprised

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Cory Gilbert
Cory Gilbert

An hour of assembly in 1.5 seconds, love it! Editing on point!

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corza bourne
corza bourne

I dont know if this is related but, I have an asus formula viii mobo with the 6700k. I have have the same problem, throttling under light load with a closed loop CPU cooler ( h115i rgb ) under "optimized defaults". As soon as I enable the mobos built in overclock profile, temps dont get over 70c. That's an overclock of over 15% so I'm lost.

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Richard H
Richard H

after rebuilding this so many time jay has gone completely loopy

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Sp4rK xD
Sp4rK xD

Make a supreme pc build

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Pica Delphon
Pica Delphon

Now the Case you rolled out in the End of this video with is about half my System size..

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Andreas Solman Andersson
Andreas Solman Andersson

From now on I will always spin my cpu on the table before building with it, thanks Jay!

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Matt B
Matt B

Primochill True is garbage and should never be used. I used it as the first fluid in my custom loop and it gummed up all the small channels just like it did for Jay. Also it stained EVERYTHING and took a good full day to clean everything by hand even after using a mayhems cleaning kit in it. Lesson learned the hard way.

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Tiavor Kuroma
Tiavor Kuroma

how about just once not using any fancy fluid? just destilled water and anti-corrosion (e.g. innovatec)

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blueckaym
blueckaym

These video series on the SFF build are super cool! ;) I'm serious - I'm doing my custom 10~11L SFF case build with the 9900K (and my old gtx1080 for now) and it's great to see some potential problems and solutions for such build. I wonder what's you opinion on alternative solution for the lack of reservoir in the loop. My idea is to use QDC (Quick-Disconnect-Coupling like EK's for example) right before the pump inlet (like in the middle of the tube). So when (re)filling it I'll disconnect it and hook it (via 2nd QDC) to external Reservoir (one that has longer tubes so that I can move it up or down - depending on if I'm filling or emptying the loop). When I have the loop filled (and air free) I'll disconnect the QDCs to the reservoir and connect the original QDC in the main loop to each other (so that the tube before the pump inlet will normally have a QDC in the middle - as part of the tube). So normal loop in operation mode (w/o reservoir) would look like: ...==[Rad]===[QDC]===[Pump]===... and when the external reservoir is hooked: ...==[Rad]===[QDC]===[Reservoir]===[QDC]===[Pump] The reservoir will have a drain port, so I can put it lower than the rest of the loop and just open it (using the pump to push out water won't work if the drain port is before the pump obviously. But another QDC-tube after the pump can help with that ... not sure if it's really necesary) Thanks Jay!

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Brent Oslund
Brent Oslund

Retrofit tempered glass to the existing side panel. So, the existing side panel will act as a small frame to attach the tempered glass. So you can actually see the damn PC. Then I would cut 1/8-1/4 slits (3-5) at the top of the tempered glass, from one side to the other horizontally. Helping vent some hot air out of the PC. Also, could do the same thing without the tempered glass. Just cut (3-5) slits at the top of the existing side panel.

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Brent Oslund
Brent Oslund

I’m an idiot. You ran the damn tests without a panel on. 🤦‍♂️

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Chadid
Chadid

I wonder how do you put your thermal paste .. how a little round point can fill a square area ? ...

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Geoff Elliott
Geoff Elliott

The layer of thermal paste should be as thin as possible, only filling the microvoids between the IHS and block. Thermal conductivity will always be best between straight metal to metal contact, but those voids cause an insulating effect because air is a horrible conductor. So that little round dot can spread pretty far once the block is mounted as long as there aren't any major gaps.

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Tim Lamein
Tim Lamein

Jeez this makes my 6700k at 4.6 a lowend cpu.

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7patterj
7patterj

Camera work and set design are awesome

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Alex Pana
Alex Pana

why not delid the cpu?

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David Mayers
David Mayers

Next video do a special on why to lap your CPU and block including best method.

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Jack Super Fly
Jack Super Fly

That lapping montage! lol Ladies...

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Franz Ferdinand
Franz Ferdinand

I don’t get it. You ran all the tests with the sides and top of the case off, so obviously the thermals will be flattered, or is that how you’re going to use it permanently?!?

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Zach Sciortino
Zach Sciortino

Problem videos are my favorite. Reminds me you guys make mistakes too.

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Stephen Drummond
Stephen Drummond

Hi Jay. i am thinking about building a new system with 2 1070s, ryzen 5 2600, 16 gigs of 3200 memory, 1tb ssd, 750 psu, 4tb hdd. would you think this would be a bottle neck?

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Land Hooman
Land Hooman

Just download the watercooling

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Carlos Guijón
Carlos Guijón

You can cook noodles while googling

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Peter Anthony Bryce Markakis
Peter Anthony Bryce Markakis

Jay can you build one of these for me ? How much would the cost be ?

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Klaus Christiansen
Klaus Christiansen

Size matters. That was what she said.

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B B
B B

Who gives a shit?!

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jarrod1937
jarrod1937

I'm sure video creators enjoy these, "What the h***" comments. They may not make sense, but it adds variety I suppose ;-)

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B B
B B

+jarrod1937 A bad life, but maybe you can suck it better...

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jarrod1937
jarrod1937

Had a bad day?

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Douglas Taylor
Douglas Taylor

Oh, and like the 500K, I too join the legions of the unsubscribed.

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Möebius 2k
Möebius 2k

Delid and direct die mount the cooler.

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Douglas Taylor
Douglas Taylor

Jay, that was a bitch move with the slight of hand with the Titan V Wanna-Be RTX.

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Mathieu Thériault
Mathieu Thériault

i currently run the 9900k on air cooling with a Be Quiet Dark Rock Pro 4 running almost at idle at 1000rpm and my cpu is around 70-73 degrees under multiple run of cinebench. my cinebench score is 2041.

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Mathieu Thériault
Mathieu Thériault

oh, and my 9900k was flat, i've done the table test ;)

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Richard Hacker
Richard Hacker

omg yes plz a build in a digital storm case. there is no such thing as over compensating.

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XeonProductions
XeonProductions

They should rename this channel to JayzBadLuck

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Douglas Taylor
Douglas Taylor

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zI2zbRTIHw

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doodle
doodle

105C on google chrome... sounds right

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Adam Razaa
Adam Razaa

I called it

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ArmoredStone
ArmoredStone

...wouldn't just having a low profile noctua cpu heatsink and intake/exhaust fans on the top and bottom solve the space issue? The massive WC heatsinks are sucking up all that space. Sure it's not the pretty "water cooled" setup...but whats it matter with a solid side panel anyway?

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Tristin DeHart
Tristin DeHart

When ur processor can't handle ur Google search history! (THERMAL THROTTLE!)

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Pixel Dust
Pixel Dust

why are the fins on the pump's heat sink arranged 90 degrees to airflow?

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BigLama
BigLama

Excellent report on what went wrong, and how it was fixed. Was wondering if its possible to get screen recordings of when you run cinebench. That way its easier to see the temps.

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Alex Courson
Alex Courson

Hey everybody I'm trying to choose my first build and I'm on about my 4th draft let me know what you think. http://pcpartpicker.com/list/9Yw7Hh Thank you

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Stephanie Varrette
Stephanie Varrette

I'd definitly try undervolting the cpu...in my experience at stock clocks you can stay 100% stable and really cut down on temps

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Joshua Steponaitis
Joshua Steponaitis

Build a Water cooled hackintish and I'll name my first born child after you (full disclaimer I will absolutely not follow through)

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bentlikeitsmaker
bentlikeitsmaker

hmm thought amd was the on fore cpu lol am4 ftw

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Why Tho
Why Tho

I get 60c with a aircooler on my 8700k underload

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Mike D
Mike D

Love the intro 😆

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Brian N.
Brian N.

This is like the new "Gone Sexual!" trend...

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rreiter
rreiter

Sometime soon Intel's gonna have to forget TIM and integrate pipe fittings right onto the IHS so we can pump liquid directly across the silicon?

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jarrod1937
jarrod1937

May seem counter intuitive, but that would likely be worse. The IHS does two things, first is to pull the heat away from the package more immediately, the second is it spreads that thermal load over a larger surface area. The water block then interfaces with the IHS's larger surface area, and then inside the water block it once again creates a larger surface area (fins, microchannels...etc) to allow more water molecules, per unit time, to pickup energy from the thermal load as it crosses through. The die package is much too small to provide the needed surface area. To increase the surface area Intel would basically be making the IHS itself a water block... and considering how poorly they seem to do with package to IHS now, I wouldn't trust them to make a good effort towards it, lol.

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Shannon Smith
Shannon Smith

what grit do you use when lapping on the glass?

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Schneider Studios
Schneider Studios

Jayz special water cooled psu

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wildwilie
wildwilie

*cough cough* Ryzen 2700 *cough cough*

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Spleen-Splitta
Spleen-Splitta

*Something wet wrong!

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hyperdriverr
hyperdriverr

I'm so glad i stuck with a Lian Li tu200. A little large for mini itx but allows you to have a 140mm rad, full psu, full gpu, 4 full sized hard drive, cd drive, and 2 2.5" drives. All inside a case a little bigger than a toaster.

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Madison Mcdonald
Madison Mcdonald

you should get the milia removed under your eyebrow its super noticable

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xblackdemonx
xblackdemonx

The trouble of watercooling is so not worth it compared to an AIO. When will you learn Jayz?

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///M Power
///M Power

is it worth to buy a 2700X and a Vega 64 right now ? or shall i just wait the zen 2 3xxx? my actual rig is a phenom 2 x4 940 4 gigs ram xD but i feel like kinda i dunno ill get the 2700x and like 6 months later its already old Oo i mean i already got this oldboy like 10 years so i could probably wait another 6 months so i get the best of the best components or is the gain of performance from 2700x to 3xxx not worth to wait? i know its just guesing but maybe dunno :D

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James Sanders
James Sanders

Great intro! lol

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Grimreaper1979a
Grimreaper1979a

7:05 Jay pulls a BitWit .... lol

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John Boona
John Boona

Why do people care so much about building a pc? It's a pc. Every pc does the same shit.

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jarrod1937
jarrod1937

You can push hardware as far as it can go. It's like people engineering better cars, then people tweaking it after market. Or in this videos instance, a bit comparison might be putting a high powered engine in a scooter.

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Peyton Lutz
Peyton Lutz

Slap a Apple sticker on it and ship it MacBook Pro i9 style

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Verby D
Verby D

the case could be easily modified to allow more airflow. WILL JAY FIGURE IT OUT?

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Corey Schroedter
Corey Schroedter

man a 9900k is way too hot in a tiny water-cooled case? waaaaw who saw that coming

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ZeroX252
ZeroX252

1.) Heatsink on the pump has fins oriented AGAINST the natural airflow. 2.) Convection is a very slow motivator for momentum. It's not helping your fans very much. We've had hundreds of many page long posts about this on enthusiast websites for decades. 3.) Negative pressure works better in enclosed spaces due to it's ability to draw air out from between components, rather than trying to force air through small gaps. Suggestions: Correct the pump heatsink fin orientation if possible (if it's not, swiftech deserves a bump for this - it's a product designed for tight enclosures, where airflow is a premium) All fans should be blowing air through the radiator as exhaust (the bottom fans are pulling through, and the top fans are pushing out so you have a nice linear airflow. This is actually lower airflow in your particular usage case. Configuring ALL fans as exhaust will almost *double* the total effective airflow compared to the marginal increase you are getting due to convection. There is a second effect that this will have. Currently the air that passes through the bottom radiator is warmed slightly by that radiator, and then by all of the components, and then finally further warms the top radiator. This results in a poor thermal efficiency. Thanks to the turbulence caused by the air drawn in through perforated side panel your air actually stagnates between the lower and upper radiator. By configuring all fans to exhaust air, room temperature air will be pulled in through the perforations on BOTH SIDES of the case (mainboard and GPU side) and then exhausted through each radiator. The total CFM of the exhaust will be much higher than the current Intake->Exhaust CFM configuration and will cause the case to pull in MUCH more air. You could do the same with all fans configured as intakes, but this would result in more dust collecting on the radiators themselves and would eventually lead to a larger performance impact. With them configured as exhaust you'll see more dust on components, but less built up on the radiators. It's the trade off. I'm sure you were aware of at least some of this - it's not exactly amateur hour - but your green is showing when it comes to ultra compact builds.

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ZeroX252
ZeroX252

+jarrod1937 this would be the case in a sealed system with a clear passage. This system is neither sealed nor clear. This means that there are natural voids due to how fluids fill spaces. For example, while creating negative pressure would motivate a pocket of air sitting behind a capacitor, blowing air up against that capacitor is going to create a stagnant void behind that same capacitor. There's also effect of the air rushing through the radiator and then fanning out in a V from the fins, directing pressure toward the side panels which have circular perforations for the air to get trapped on. We don't exactly have an open tube at any point. By expelling air from all possible exits we create a definitive negative pressure inside the box. Pushing more in "kind of does" but not nearly as effective thanks to all of the obstruction. Again, we've had people way more intelligent than I with exceptionally expensive testing equipment verify this. It's happened on [H], XS, and OCN. In normal circumstances having clear, directed airflow is best. But in constrained spaces full of obstructions, you need negative pressure.

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jarrod1937
jarrod1937

I'm not sure if the physics match up to that theory. Fans merely create pressure, pushing or pulling doesn't matter as long as they're creating the same pressure gradient. The pressure itself is simply more gas molecules in a defined space than it naturally wants, in it's rest energy state (equilibrium). Negative pressure gradients is simply the reverse, less gas molecules than what equilibrium within an open system would dictate. The CFM is very likely to be the same, due to the same pressure being created. If the pressure gradient is the same, and the flow rate is the same, I don't think push or pull will matter much, if at all. I suppose someone could try running this sort of thing through numerical simulation, we have fairly accurate methods of testing for these very types of thermal engineering questions.

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ZeroX252
ZeroX252

the TL;DR: Pushing air is harder than pulling air through tight spaces. Once the air hits an obstacle it stagnates, even if that obstacle is just more air. By PULLING air out of the case, you will also be pulling it through all of the tight spaces and prevent the stagnation that leads to hot air buildup inside the condensed size of that case. Reducing constriction as much as possible will help, but not nearly as much as focusing on PULLING air OUT of the space. Let physics worry about filling that space up with new air. You just worry about getting the hot air out.

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Jesse Rigano
Jesse Rigano

well isn't that a pity lmfao no not really

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Meegul
Meegul

It just goes to show that you know your shit. I like these videos. I used to freak out about anything going up to 60c. And this mofo is going up to 80 and it's totally alright for extreme settings. It gives me more confidence to just go for it.

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william 19
william 19

How consvenient you had a problem with water cooling and today i have a problem with water in my pc snd wont work wont work. Really makes studying easy in a swimming pc.

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